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by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?
Replies: 8
Views: 2673

Re: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?

She said the crux of the issue is that the kids can see the rebellion in church where they are supposed to be learning gospel principles from trusted adults. It's a shame that the culture views strict obedience to leaders as a gospel principle. I would have hoped that the true gospel principle in t...
by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon church pays $250 million in Boy Scout settlement
Replies: 9
Views: 2585

Re: Mormon church pays $250 million in Boy Scout settlement

The Church wouldn't have even needed a prophet, seer, and revelator to avoid this mess - all that would have been required is genuine concern for the members. In each of the churches and other organizations where there have been high profile cases, the common thread that runs through all is prioriti...
by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?
Replies: 8
Views: 2673

Re: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?

You know what really pisses me off? For years I watched people shame other members about all kinds of crap they weren't following the prophet on, from not going on missions, to having two earrings, to watching R rated movies, to drinking Coke, you name it. And now some of the judgmental I-follow-the...
by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Replies: 68
Views: 21527

Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU

What a god-awful talk. I guess I should thank him because it is part of why my wife has now felt like it is the right thing for her to have gone inactive which I NEVER thought would EVER happen. We both have separated ourselves from the church as of 3-4 months ago (although two of our three childre...
by Not Buying It
Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Replies: 68
Views: 21527

Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU

I'm seeing a lot of :"WeLl HiS TaLk DiDn'T OfFeNd Me!!!!!!" Well, no sh!t. He wasn't threatening straight, cis-gendered TBMs. :roll: And most TBMs lack the emotional capacity to truly empathize with people they have been taught to view as "less than." This whole thing is just really sad. I have als...
by Not Buying It
Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Replies: 68
Views: 21527

Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU

Hey, leave Jeff alone. He's not a dodo. He's read a few books and he's been to a pretty good school. What Matt Easton did was incredibly brave. What Holland did was incredibly petty and petulant. Bastard. I really don't have much else to say about him right now, other than to affirm that he is indee...
by Not Buying It
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Dr. Prophet Finally Speaks
Replies: 39
Views: 9896

Re: Dr. Prophet Finally Speaks

I'm not the first to say this nor the one to say it best, but I really have to express how truly disgusted I am that for these members who are leaving it isn't the misogyny, it isn't the racism, it isn't the homophobia, it isn't the sexual predation of early Church leaders, it isn't the lies and dec...
by Not Buying It
Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: DEZNATS makes mainstream Australian news article
Replies: 7
Views: 2176

Re: DEZNATS makes mainstream Australian news article

In response to questions about DezNats, and the church’s willingness to disown them, Douglas Anderson, the church’s media spokesman, wrote in an email that the group was “not affiliated with or endorsed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” Anderson added that “in recent months, chur...
by Not Buying It
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
Replies: 11
Views: 3347

Re: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do

"We are all children of God..." some children get the priesthood and will have harems in the next life... and other children should stay barefoot and pregnant. The "priesthood ban" did not end in 1978, it is still alive and well. True that. The Church complements its inherent white supremacy with i...
by Not Buying It
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
Replies: 11
Views: 3347

Re: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do

Well, part of what he is saying is the whole "let's be colorblind" argument that we shouldn't talk about race because it "divides" us - never mind that the lower income, lower personal wealth, lower rates of high ownership, and higher rates of poverty for Black Americans compared to White Americans ...
by Not Buying It
Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
Replies: 11
Views: 3347

Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do

And in a win for white supremacists all throughout the Church, President Oaks attacks diversity, and the Church News amplifies his clueless white guy rhetoric: https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-08-08/during-his-first-trpresident-oaks-single-adult-conference-absolute-truth-22173...
by Not Buying It
Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith’s brilliance
Replies: 16
Views: 5006

Re: Joseph Smith’s brilliance

I agree that Joseph was a creative genius, but I do not believe he was a brilliant theologian. These is a distinct lack in consistency in his "revelations" over time - he was good at making up creative things that stimulated his follower's interest in the short term, but he was hopelessly inept in c...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Nelson's Spiral of Death
Replies: 14
Views: 3885

Re: Nelson's Spiral of Death

Let's go back to the story about the armed robbery for a moment. At the time I thought it odd that a prophet, seer, and revelator, and apostle even, with protecting angels at his disposal allowed an elderly woman in his company to be manhandled and have her arm broken: https://www.ksl.com/article/66...
by Not Buying It
Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Joseph Smith actually translate anything?
Replies: 3
Views: 1479

Re: Did Joseph Smith actually translate anything?

He translated things in the same sense he revealed sacred truths - in actuality he just made crap up all the time.
by Not Buying It
Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: One of the DezNat founders is the Asst Attorney General of Alaska!
Replies: 5
Views: 1942

Re: One of the DezNat founders is the Asst Attorney General of Alaska!

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/07/21/assistant-alaskan-ag/ The Utah-based faith has pointed out that #DezNat is “not affiliated with or endorsed by [the church]” and has decried any racist or uncivil interactions. There is a huge gulf between saying an organization is “not affiliated with or ...
by Not Buying It
Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
Replies: 10
Views: 4317

Re: Hunger in Africa and Latin America

The Mormon church has enough money to actually make a difference on a global scale. Instead we prayed. But I guess our prayers overlooked the tens of millions of people who will starve to death this year as a consequence, in part, of the pandemic. Hey, we didn't "just" pray. We fasted too. Because ...
by Not Buying It
Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Quentin Cook's introduction
Replies: 7
Views: 2342

Re: Quentin Cook's introduction

Red Ryder wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:31 pm
Is there a TLDR version of the hospital thing?

I’ve heard about it for years but never bothered reading about it.

I didn’t know he was a comp with Holland. That’s hilarious.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... _its_time/

Dude's a scumbag.
by Not Buying It
Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
Replies: 10
Views: 4317

Re: Hunger in Africa and Latin America

The Mormon church has enough money to actually make a difference on a global scale. Instead we prayed. But I guess our prayers overlooked the tens of millions of people who will starve to death this year as a consequence, in part, of the pandemic. Hey, we didn't "just" pray. We fasted too. Because ...
by Not Buying It
Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Quentin Cook's introduction
Replies: 7
Views: 2342

Re: Quentin Cook's introduction

He's got a lot of damn gall invoking the Civil Rights Movement, talking about how MLK Jr. was his hero, and touting his relationships with MLK Jr.'s son and the NAACP when the organization that he now helps lead was actively and viciously discriminating against blacks until 1978 . Elder Cook is an i...
by Not Buying It
Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
Replies: 8
Views: 2862

The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church

So Reddit has pretty much blown up with talk about how the Church is downplaying that faithful members "get their own planet". Yawn. President Hinckley disingenuously tried to walk that one back 20 years ago with Mike Wallace, it's old news that the Church wants members to think they'll be Gods if t...