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by dogbite
Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:33 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Trump & Church
Replies: 78
Views: 852641

Re: Trump & Church

Meh. Fraud for paying back a loan? That is not the charge and you should know that. If you want to misrepresent facts that's your choice. It remains that Trump has been found guilty of fraud. You also neglected to talk about his conviction for sexual abuse. And you tried a fallacious distraction on...
by dogbite
Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:29 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Trump & Church
Replies: 78
Views: 852641

Re: Trump & Church

doesn't have a criminal record, That is becoming less and less true. He's been convicted of sexual abuse, civilly. He's guilty of fraud in the NYC case, but again, civilly. Our law differentiates between criminal and civil things but those two cases above look pretty criminal in behavior to me. Bot...
by dogbite
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Martin Harris- why did Jos. Smith trust him with the 116 pages?
Replies: 10
Views: 5536

Re: Martin Harris- why did Jos. Smith trust him with the 116 pages?

I don't think we have anything like the full story. It was heavily spun after the fact for face saving purposes. And probably before hand for general scam purposes. Based on no evidence, just my understanding of human nature, I suspect that: Martin Harris had his own doubts about JS the scammer, thu...
by dogbite
Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?
Replies: 9
Views: 5220

Re: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?

Word vulgarity follows.

There is a book about cursing, Holy Fucking Shit. That title explains what curse words are based around.

The Sacred

Sexual things

Various Excreta

So which one of those does the word mormon fit? I don't have a problem putting it any of the categories.
by dogbite
Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lot's Daughters
Replies: 13
Views: 6580

Re: Lot's Daughters

As far as I can tell, your Nazarite quote has nothing to do with your interpretation.
by dogbite
Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 26
Views: 8967

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

It seems to me that Moses is a fictional account. There is no supporting evidence.
by dogbite
Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 84012

Re: Fight The New Drug

Why do you care? Mote and beam and all that. I mean there is no demonstrable reason to think any religion has it right. And plenty to think they're wrong. Most of us don't view the bible as being a guide to life. Or correct about what is right and wrong. So when you tell us we're all bad based on bi...
by dogbite
Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is a community garden at every church possible?
Replies: 14
Views: 6226

Re: Is a community garden at every church possible?

No. Many are apartments, corporate spaces and the like in the middle floors of buildings in big cities. No garden space.
by dogbite
Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
Replies: 54
Views: 15813

Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?

I've been trying to disengage from discussion of Mormonism pro or con. I try to avoid the forums. I'm in a relapse at the moment. But hopefully you'll see less and less of me as I succeed in disengaging.
by dogbite
Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The usefulness of prophets
Replies: 12
Views: 8168

Re: The usefulness of prophets

Paine's Age of Reason on prophets No one will deny or dispute the power of the Almighty to make such a communication if he pleases. But admitting, for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is revelation to that person only....
by dogbite
Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How inspired was Paul from a Mormon perspective?
Replies: 6
Views: 6852

Re: How inspired was Paul from a Mormon perspective?

Mormons have to turn to the BOM, you're saved by grace after all you can do. So Ephesians is one of the "translation errors" of the NT. Of course, it's likely that Paul didn't write Ephesians at all, but is instead Paul fan fiction or apologia. In the more authentic of Paul's letters, it's debatable...
by dogbite
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone tell the truth anymore
Replies: 16
Views: 7115

Re: Does anyone tell the truth anymore

Turns out the truth probably isn't an evolutionary advantage. Our perceptions and processing evolved to be pretty lossy. From the book Useful Delusions Consider this simplest of examples—the organ you are using to read this book: In any given second, the human eye collects about a billion bits of in...
by dogbite
Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

He certainly is not preacing in harmony with the gospels nor what Christianity became.

But of course, he predates those ideas.
by dogbite
Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good
Replies: 27
Views: 12998

Re: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good

I'm glad you are happy.

But keep this in mind. You don't actually know what your future self wants.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dtfaccGmCCs&feature=share9
by dogbite
Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

Dogbite's current Historicity probabilities. I've flipflopped my views on Jesus and the New Testament a number of times. I've even held mythicist views. So given what's been discussed here, I'll share my current state of historicity. For me, I have to start with Paul. Paul seems to be the best attes...
by dogbite
Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

posting weirdness, see below.
by dogbite
Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

6 Judas. This is often theorized as an addition to blame the Jews. His name means the Jewish people. If the titulus is authentic, Jesus crime was sedition. He claimed he was king of the Jews. This is sedition against Rome. Further it was rebellion against the Jewish leadership and their relationship...
by dogbite
Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

Now that I'm at a keyboard, I'll say more. It wasn't so much that Jesus had to die. It's more about how the hell do we explain that he died --was killed ignominiously--and without ushering in God's Kingdom to rule in righteousness as he said he would. The personal divinity and subsititionary atoneme...
by dogbite
Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

Ehrman's How Jesus Became God addresses and answers many of your questions.

It's fairly short and easy to read
by dogbite
Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 4918

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

2 is a late forged addition to Luke. It's a fake. That revealed scripture doubles down on it only proves the falseness of the Mormon claim.