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- Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:15 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A Reasonable God?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 50710
Re: A Reasonable God?
I might have worded the title of this thread: "Does a reasonable God need carefully worded denials, hiding truths that aren't useful, and relentless emphasis of authority?" but it would fit in the 'Subject' box. ;) I read an idea from a Christian scholar that "God doesn't need our lies." (James Moff...
- Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:26 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What did you learn in the temple today, honey?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 15547
What did you learn in the temple today, honey?
When I first went through the temple in the 1970's I had a lot of false hopes built up by such comments as "The temple is the Lord's University," "You'll learn the whole purpose of life." and "Every time I go to the temple I learn something new." When I went through the temple I was expecting to LEA...
- Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:56 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Returning Missionary Procedures
- Replies: 28
- Views: 13087
Re: Returning Missionary Procedures
Really. Listen to this. You will not regret it if you can laugh at something called thebookumARmun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1Ez7MjvBU That talk would be greatly improved by the addition of a laugh track. He really had me on pins and needles for a while but I was relieved that he made it a...
- Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:19 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Eckhart Tolle describing NOMs
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7699
Re: Eckhart Tolle describing NOMs
So freaking true!!! Unless you cultivate friendly critics. Science does this. Messy but good governments do this.
I see some of this in NOM.
The CHURCH of Jesus Christ of LDS.... not so much.
- Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:06 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A Reasonable God?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 50710
Re: A Reasonable God?
Wonderful comments. I've said it before but it bears repeating. NOM beats the crap out of LDS Sunday School. Thank goodness for the South Valley Community of St. Judas too. :D Each new "revelation" tries to build on and reconcile previous traditions: ????-- Baal-- Jehovah--Jesus/Trinity-- Allah-- Mo...
- Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:15 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A Reasonable God?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 50710
A Reasonable God?
Is the God you believe in reasonable? I was reading a 1978 journal of a liberal (white)Church member who was trying to rationalize why God decided June 1978 was the right time to lift the priesthood/temple ban. He rationalized that God was just waiting for the time when the (99.9%) white membership ...
- Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:26 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: LDS approach to history.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12294
LDS approach to history.
I came across an interesting metaphor in reading Leonard Arrington's 1978 diaries today. To paraphrase- He said the Mormons believe in baptism by immersion, but many prefer to teach Church History by sprinkling. I thought it was clever and insightful explanation of the Church History which was being...
- Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:56 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Indoctrination
- Replies: 3
- Views: 6390
Indoctrination
To the tune of "Follow the Prophet."
Follow the prophet,
In-doc-tri-na-tion,
Through repetition
Still works today.
Follow the Prophet
In-doc-ti-na-tion
pure repetition,
Will make kids stay.
Just came to mind.
Follow the prophet,
In-doc-tri-na-tion,
Through repetition
Still works today.
Follow the Prophet
In-doc-ti-na-tion
pure repetition,
Will make kids stay.
Just came to mind.
- Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Question about early missionaries to England/Scandinavia:
- Replies: 5
- Views: 7622
Re: Question about early missionaries to England/Scandinavia:
Good Comments. Another good book about emigrants from Europe is Tell It All by Fanny Stenhouse. It is quite long, but her account of learning about polygamy little by little, in the face of official denials by Church leaders and Missionaries is first hand. It's $1 on kindle.
- Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:01 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Past Stance Against Christianity
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8417
Re: Past Stance Against Christianity
If you're looking for top notch bigots start by looking in a Church.
- Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:59 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The usefulness of prophets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8238
Re: The usefulness of prophets
A good therapist is likely to be more helpful than most prophets.
Heck, a good friend is more helpful than most prophets.
Heck, a good friend is more helpful than most prophets.
- Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:55 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 16376
Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
I love you guys soooo much.
- Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:50 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Why are powerful men.......horndogs?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 13285
Why are powerful men.......horndogs?
Like Boyd Packer, I want to treat this subject with reverence- ;)- but have you ever wondered why rich, powerful men so often seduce multiple women? From John Kennedy to Bill Clinton to Joseph Smith to Brigham Young to Leonardo Di Caprio to Jimmy Swaggert to Martin Luther King, when men get fame, po...
- Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:53 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good
- Replies: 27
- Views: 13176
Re: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good
…. But I’m happier being out.
And then there’s reality.
And then there’s reality.
- Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:25 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good
- Replies: 27
- Views: 13176
Re: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good
I tried to convert my wife to post Mormonism a little, but now I try to explain how I see things differently, while validating her views and acknowledging I could be wrong, which seems to work better. My wife loves teaching primary and working in the temple. I see that it makes her happy which makes...
- Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: SL Trib: The church could be worth $1 Trillion by 2044
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7565
Re: SL Trib: The church could be worth $1 Trillion by 2044
So many comments that I agree with. Staggering information.
- Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:25 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7003
Re: The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory?
Axioms that portray a devil's advocate sometimes appeal to me:
One ideology's freedom fighter is the opposing ideology's terrorist- and vice versa.
One person's conspiracy theory is another person's religion, and vice versa.
One ideology's freedom fighter is the opposing ideology's terrorist- and vice versa.
One person's conspiracy theory is another person's religion, and vice versa.
- Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:30 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: How inspired was Paul from a Mormon perspective?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6887
Re: How inspired was Paul from a Mormon perspective?
Two more things: Eph. 2:8-9 is the scripture that says "We are saved by grace, not works, lest any man should boast."
2: This is an example of my weird way of looking at things, wondering- What are those Mormons thinking?
2: This is an example of my weird way of looking at things, wondering- What are those Mormons thinking?
- Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:33 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: How inspired was Paul from a Mormon perspective?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6887
How inspired was Paul from a Mormon perspective?
As a missionary I had Ephesians 2:8-9 thrown in my face countless times. It was THE proof text that Mormons were wrong, that Mormons weren't really Christians, etc. When I first found a JS translation, I expectantly looked it up hoping to find that it had been mistranslated. "Strange," I thought at ...
- Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:21 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 16376
Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
NOM was a lifesaver for me when I first found it around 2012. When it disappeared for awhile I missed it, Other forums didn't fit as well. They were too contentious, or too shallow. I was really glad when it was brought back. I sense that the average age of contributors is 40 or above. I could be wr...