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by Newme
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith
Replies: 23
Views: 10776

Re: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith

Here’s another one, Palerider (btw are you really pale or carry one as u ride? Never mind me...) Does this sound familiar? Sir Issac Newton (1642-1727) wrote, “Henceforward the Christian Churches having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof...” Sorry, I hadn't checked on this in a few ...
by Newme
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith
Replies: 23
Views: 10776

Re: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith

Sir Issac Newton (1642-1727) wrote, “Henceforward the Christian Churches having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof...” Pretty sure this Newton fellow wrote, “What goes up must come down, spinning wheel got to go round.” Lots of people have said similar, so it could’ve been one of th...
by Newme
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: First American Thanksgiving
Replies: 5
Views: 2518

Re: First American Thanksgiving

The first American Thanksgiving occurred at Plymouth Plantation between Sept. 21 and Nov. 11, 1621, with the most likely time being around Michaelmas (Sept. 29). Michaelmas would be familiar to the business people in the LDS Corporation as the start of one of the four quarter days on the financial ...
by Newme
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith
Replies: 23
Views: 10776

Re: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith

You guys thankfully already are aware of much that JS borrowed from other sources. I just came across another: Immanuel Kant wrote, “Better the whole people perish than that injustice be done.” Oh, I think John 11:50 is much closer than Kant: "Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man ...
by Newme
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

My mom and other TBMs were taught they’re all evil. I was taught they were evil by the Church. The idea was that they were the devil's tool, and you'd be under his power if you used them. Scared the crap out of me. When I finally got brave enough to use them, I gained two opinions about them. 1- Th...
by Newme
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

Ghost wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:39 pm
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:lol:
That’s the insanity of taking symbolic parables literally - humorous but sad when people suffer from it.
by Newme
Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 11633

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

There have been observations that many families these days, particularly young families, have switched to a homechurched model... Though, I note that your comment, "I see Christ as a culmination of the highest good in humanity - and how to love well" aligns more with the Jesus that Bawer follows th...
by Newme
Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith
Replies: 23
Views: 10776

Re: Thoughts on Mozart and Joseph Smith

You guys thankfully already are aware of much that JS borrowed from other sources. I just came across another: Immanuel Kant wrote, “Better the whole people perish than that injustice be done.” Still, JS was an effective cult leader. He had a gift of charisma, and I think he did inspire good, as wel...
by Newme
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 11633

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

The way Christ was viewed was the subject of debate for hundreds of years. I see Christ as a culmination of the highest good in humanity - and how to love well. We all struggle at times, to love well. Completely agree. The debate and the struggle rage on. I've recommended Bruce Bawer's Stealing Jes...
by Newme
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 11633

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

...As the old adage says, "If you were accused of being a follower of Christ (a Christian) would there be enough evidence to convict you?" More and more these days when I see the self-proclaimed leaders who talk the loudest I find absolutely no evidence to convict them as a follower of Christ. Noth...
by Newme
Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 11633

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

The article is pretty much just a stated opinion as Newme said. And it's painted with a pretty broad brush. That doesn't make it entirely wrong.....or right either. For being so down on Christians who are judgemental the author is being pretty condemning himself. On the other hand it would be nice ...
by Newme
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why would you want to help the needy ?
Replies: 19
Views: 11110

Re: Why would you want to help the needy ?

Tithing is meant to go to the poor. 1/3 (according to Deut. 14:28-29) is supposed to go to the “widows and fatherless” but likely implies all those who cannot support themselves. Christ asked that those who can, give much more. I understand that the church doesn’t want to enable generational or long...
by Newme
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 11633

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

I may agree that “this God may be toxic.” But then it depends on how you define God. Generally, human sacrifice scapegoating is toxic. But I wouldn’t throw out the entire Christianity just because the Catholic Inquisition, Crusades and other corruption twisted scripture. The author claimed, “With ev...
by Newme
Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

What kind of cards? My memory says they were devil cards, but I searched and searched online and all it brings up is the devil card from the tarot cards. I stayed with a friend for a while and she had a couple dozen kinds of oracle/tarot cards, and this one was so accurate, it was scary. I was afra...
by Newme
Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Does your spouse know you post on NOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 13933

Re: Does your spouse know you post on NOM?

Sis M knows I post here, doesn't like it, and is convinced ya'll are leading me carefully down to hell. If she actually takes the time to read what I post, I'm sure she'll know different. Similar here. I don’t post often here - and post more on other places. Yet, whenever we get into religious disa...
by Newme
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

Some intense discussions and debates about details of “the gospel”/church/Mormonism, reminds me of people getting a little too into a role-playing board game or something. Or like when my son was too young to know if his video game controller was actually hooked up & would get into it even though it...
by Newme
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

FreeFallin wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:31 pm
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:lol:
Truth is often funny if it’s simply plain naked.
by Newme
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

DPRoberts wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:39 pm
I remembered how I LOL'd at this scene when I was TBM.

Some people just can't talk about religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TSXmj5FObY
:lol: More-man=Morman
Is that why the church’s focus away from the name, More-man?
by Newme
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

https://i.imgur.com/wnyUsBa.jpg ;) Some might see the insanity in that. If it wasn’t jam packed with inquisition and crusade type threatening tradition, who would come up with that?? On top of that, interpreting literally is popular. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4....
by Newme
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 55
Views: 32038

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

:lol: Well, if God told him to do it.... ;) :D :lol: :lol: He assured us that he discarded that advice. Occasionally, when I’m puzzled about something and really need help in considering other ways of looking at things, I do rune cards. If many TBMs knew I used any type of “divination” tool, they’d...