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- Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:52 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2768
Re: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?
She said the crux of the issue is that the kids can see the rebellion in church where they are supposed to be learning gospel principles from trusted adults. It's a shame that the culture views strict obedience to leaders as a gospel principle. I would have hoped that the true gospel principle in t...
- Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:51 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Mormon church pays $250 million in Boy Scout settlement
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2625
Re: Mormon church pays $250 million in Boy Scout settlement
The Church wouldn't have even needed a prophet, seer, and revelator to avoid this mess - all that would have been required is genuine concern for the members. In each of the churches and other organizations where there have been high profile cases, the common thread that runs through all is prioriti...
- Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:02 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2768
Re: Should anti-maskers in youth/primary callings be released?
You know what really pisses me off? For years I watched people shame other members about all kinds of crap they weren't following the prophet on, from not going on missions, to having two earrings, to watching R rated movies, to drinking Coke, you name it. And now some of the judgmental I-follow-the...
- Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:57 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
- Replies: 68
- Views: 22480
Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
What a god-awful talk. I guess I should thank him because it is part of why my wife has now felt like it is the right thing for her to have gone inactive which I NEVER thought would EVER happen. We both have separated ourselves from the church as of 3-4 months ago (although two of our three childre...
- Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:26 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
- Replies: 68
- Views: 22480
Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
I'm seeing a lot of :"WeLl HiS TaLk DiDn'T OfFeNd Me!!!!!!" Well, no sh!t. He wasn't threatening straight, cis-gendered TBMs. :roll: And most TBMs lack the emotional capacity to truly empathize with people they have been taught to view as "less than." This whole thing is just really sad. I have als...
- Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:52 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
- Replies: 68
- Views: 22480
Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Hey, leave Jeff alone. He's not a dodo. He's read a few books and he's been to a pretty good school. What Matt Easton did was incredibly brave. What Holland did was incredibly petty and petulant. Bastard. I really don't have much else to say about him right now, other than to affirm that he is indee...
- Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:14 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Dr. Prophet Finally Speaks
- Replies: 39
- Views: 10249
Re: Dr. Prophet Finally Speaks
I'm not the first to say this nor the one to say it best, but I really have to express how truly disgusted I am that for these members who are leaving it isn't the misogyny, it isn't the racism, it isn't the homophobia, it isn't the sexual predation of early Church leaders, it isn't the lies and dec...
- Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:42 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: DEZNATS makes mainstream Australian news article
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2236
Re: DEZNATS makes mainstream Australian news article
In response to questions about DezNats, and the church’s willingness to disown them, Douglas Anderson, the church’s media spokesman, wrote in an email that the group was “not affiliated with or endorsed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” Anderson added that “in recent months, chur...
- Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:13 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3425
Re: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
"We are all children of God..." some children get the priesthood and will have harems in the next life... and other children should stay barefoot and pregnant. The "priesthood ban" did not end in 1978, it is still alive and well. True that. The Church complements its inherent white supremacy with i...
- Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:38 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3425
Re: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
Well, part of what he is saying is the whole "let's be colorblind" argument that we shouldn't talk about race because it "divides" us - never mind that the lower income, lower personal wealth, lower rates of high ownership, and higher rates of poverty for Black Americans compared to White Americans ...
- Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:44 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3425
Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
And in a win for white supremacists all throughout the Church, President Oaks attacks diversity, and the Church News amplifies his clueless white guy rhetoric: https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-08-08/during-his-first-trpresident-oaks-single-adult-conference-absolute-truth-22173...
- Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:24 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Joseph Smith’s brilliance
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5286
Re: Joseph Smith’s brilliance
I agree that Joseph was a creative genius, but I do not believe he was a brilliant theologian. These is a distinct lack in consistency in his "revelations" over time - he was good at making up creative things that stimulated his follower's interest in the short term, but he was hopelessly inept in c...
- Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Nelson's Spiral of Death
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3946
Re: Nelson's Spiral of Death
Let's go back to the story about the armed robbery for a moment. At the time I thought it odd that a prophet, seer, and revelator, and apostle even, with protecting angels at his disposal allowed an elderly woman in his company to be manhandled and have her arm broken: https://www.ksl.com/article/66...
- Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:38 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Did Joseph Smith actually translate anything?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1512
Re: Did Joseph Smith actually translate anything?
He translated things in the same sense he revealed sacred truths - in actuality he just made crap up all the time.
- Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:37 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: One of the DezNat founders is the Asst Attorney General of Alaska!
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1993
Re: One of the DezNat founders is the Asst Attorney General of Alaska!
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/07/21/assistant-alaskan-ag/ The Utah-based faith has pointed out that #DezNat is “not affiliated with or endorsed by [the church]” and has decried any racist or uncivil interactions. There is a huge gulf between saying an organization is “not affiliated with or ...
- Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:23 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4402
Re: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
The Mormon church has enough money to actually make a difference on a global scale. Instead we prayed. But I guess our prayers overlooked the tens of millions of people who will starve to death this year as a consequence, in part, of the pandemic. Hey, we didn't "just" pray. We fasted too. Because ...
- Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:17 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Quentin Cook's introduction
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2401
- Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:24 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4402
Re: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
The Mormon church has enough money to actually make a difference on a global scale. Instead we prayed. But I guess our prayers overlooked the tens of millions of people who will starve to death this year as a consequence, in part, of the pandemic. Hey, we didn't "just" pray. We fasted too. Because ...
- Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:40 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Quentin Cook's introduction
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2401
Re: Quentin Cook's introduction
He's got a lot of damn gall invoking the Civil Rights Movement, talking about how MLK Jr. was his hero, and touting his relationships with MLK Jr.'s son and the NAACP when the organization that he now helps lead was actively and viciously discriminating against blacks until 1978 . Elder Cook is an i...
- Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:53 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2939
The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
So Reddit has pretty much blown up with talk about how the Church is downplaying that faithful members "get their own planet". Yawn. President Hinckley disingenuously tried to walk that one back 20 years ago with Mike Wallace, it's old news that the Church wants members to think they'll be Gods if t...