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by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 22190

Re: There is no such thing as free will

Yeah, not a huge fan of The Hitch. I just don't think that believing that religion is a sham (which I do) naturally leads to a basis to uniquely discriminate against members of religions, and especially not one religion over others.
by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 22190

Re: There is no such thing as free will

What is it about Sam Harris that you dislike? His philosophical positions sit on some pretty badly shifting sands and tend toward a weird sort of pseudo-philosophical Islamophobia. His definition of free will is weird and I don't like it. Basically, most of the criticisms leveled here: https://www....
by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Inoculation? Polygamy Taught the Second Week of Seminary
Replies: 13
Views: 8128

Re: Inoculation? Polygamy Taught the Second Week of Seminary

oh no I missed my homework assignment of deprogramming my kids from this lesson. I keep asking them what they learned and they keep saying basically "oh nothing" or some weird Friend story. sheeeeeeeeeesh. (although my kids have a pretty good moral compass / skeptical bent, maybe they just shrugged ...
by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 22190

Re: There is no such thing as free will

Jumping in here to add my completely bullsh*t personal opinion that: a) we don't have free will, b) no version of a society can survive without believing in at least a weak form of free will, so it's necessary to act like we do, and c) listening to Sam Harris gives me a headache. Oh and d) the best ...
by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Bitter Vet
Replies: 4
Views: 3749

Re: Bitter Vet

This sounds like the perfect place for bitter vets.
by profit_seizer
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is there still good in the church?
Replies: 13
Views: 6459

Re: Is there still good in the church?

I found that it was just too hard to do actual good in the world through the political organizing I've been involved in, then go to a place that I feel does much less good in my community but to have that place claim to be the kingdom of God. Well not to mention that I'm no longer a fan of either ki...
by profit_seizer
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Marital First Aid for Exmo/Questioner Couple
Replies: 2
Views: 2469

Re: Marital First Aid for Exmo/Questioner Couple

I'm in Portland (though we were in Phoenix 5 years ago!). I found this group through Mormon Spectrum. Maybe I can find a different mormon group for her through it too (maybe one that's like liberal but still believing-ish), and maybe that would help. I have already basically given up everything else...
by profit_seizer
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: McKenna Bears Testimony in Bishop's Ward
Replies: 47
Views: 29175

Re: McKenna Bears Testimony in Bishop's Ward

It's hard to know what will get traction in the greater mormon world of news etc. I'm inclined to believe that the only bad press is no press here, and that McKenna did her level best to make sure that "no press" wasn't an option. It's probably not going to convince any TBMs, but most of them were n...
by profit_seizer
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Soundtrack of the NOM
Replies: 138
Views: 81078

Re: Soundtrack of the NOM

So many good choices so far, so many good possibilities still remain. I'm going to choose two: You can't go wrong with Built To Spill's incredibly tongue-in-cheek Randy Described Eternity: Every thousand years This metal sphere Ten times the size of Jupiter Floats just a few yards past the earth You...
by profit_seizer
Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Marital First Aid for Exmo/Questioner Couple
Replies: 2
Views: 2469

Marital First Aid for Exmo/Questioner Couple

Hi, I'm temple-married, 10 years, 3 kids, with a questioner who has decided to stay despite not believing the church is there only true one. I don't attend at all anymore and have no interest in going back. She takes the kids every week and has a temple recommend (I was going to sac mtg to help with...
by profit_seizer
Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Broke the news that I'm "questioning"
Replies: 6
Views: 5079

Re: Broke the news that I'm "questioning"

This is really really similar to my situation. My wife gave up on the idea that the church is only-true, but still has a belief in a god and thinks the church is still "true" in the way that lots of other churches are true. By rights, I should be out on an exmo site and she should be here, lol. But ...
by profit_seizer
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Husband is reading American Crucifixion
Replies: 1
Views: 1162

Re: Husband is reading American Crucifixion

It is absolutely hilarious that he's going down this road out of sheer boredom. I love this story, hope DW goes that way soon.
by profit_seizer
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Apostles and perfection
Replies: 17
Views: 9808

Re: Apostles and perfection

Just once in the church, I'd like to see a machinist or plumber become a GA, though[...]If anyone knows of a GA that was working class, please correct me. Classism is just one of those "imperfections" we're supposed to forgive I guess? Seriously, though here's the current set of 12: Ballard—owned c...
by profit_seizer
Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sam Young to be excommunicated from Ziontology on September 9
Replies: 36
Views: 16694

Re: Sam Young to be excommunicated from Ziontology on September 9

Gotta love that good ol' "common consent" where you get booted for encouraging people to vote a certain way.
by profit_seizer
Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: hello from sunny portland oregon
Replies: 7
Views: 4429

hello from sunny portland oregon

Hi! I'm Ben, essentially 100% non-practicing since January 2017, DW is vaguely orthoprax but a questioner too. Three kids, making things work so far, but it's actually been pretty hard relationship-wise (I was questioning / less-active since well before she started doing serious questioning). I woul...