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by Wonderment
Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen
Replies: 28
Views: 4154

Re: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen

annotatedbom: Many thanks to you for posting this very important topic and for overseeing the discussion so well. It's very important to have a reflective, thoughtful dialogue on this very serious and tragic issue. I appreciate the viewpoints of everyone who posted here. Thanks again, best wishes fr...
by Wonderment
Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen
Replies: 28
Views: 4154

Re: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen

It's a terrible issue. There really are no active members who can speak up very much without being ex-communicated. Marie Osmond has spoken up very strongly on behalf of her gay daughter whose same-sex marriage could not be performed in the temple. But Marie is still an active, tithe-paying member. ...
by Wonderment
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood & Motherhood
Replies: 6
Views: 931

Re: Priesthood & Motherhood

nibbler wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:10 pm
Another thing you can add to your list...

The priesthood had to be restored. If they're so equivalent, why didn't motherhood need to be restored?
Another excellent point ! Thank you. And many thanks to Hagoth for the OP.
by Wonderment
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood & Motherhood
Replies: 6
Views: 931

Re: Priesthood & Motherhood

Points well taken. I never understood the excuse given to women: "Well, you don't need the priesthood, because you can have children." I never bought into that. There's no equivalence there. Any male of a certain age who follows the rules and does everything the church tells him to do, can automatic...
by Wonderment
Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen
Replies: 28
Views: 4154

Re: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen

I'm glad you posted this article, because I was just getting ready to post it. This is an absolute tragedy; and I fear that it has happened far more than we know about. -- Wndr.
by Wonderment
Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Thoughts after visiting Utah
Replies: 14
Views: 2303

Re: Thoughts after visiting Utah

Thank you for this review of Utah ! I'm going to spend next week in Utah, both in Springville, and in downtown SLC for a convention at the Salt Palace. Have not been to Utah for many years, and have never been to Springville. I really don't know what to expect, but I have heard that Utah drivers go ...
by Wonderment
Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon No More on Hulu
Replies: 15
Views: 2612

Re: Mormon No More on Hulu

That's amazing that Sister Ryder watched this with you. Do you think that you will watch any further episodes, or is it just too stressful? I have difficulty watching or listening to video/ audio with the voices of G.A.'s, other church officials, etc, because they strike me as being so toxic and so ...
by Wonderment
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:03 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Trump & Church
Replies: 78
Views: 981454

Re: Trump & Church

Hagoth wrote, Sure, democrats may respect the rule of law, but does that excuse the fact that they eat babies? I know because some guy on the internet said so. Which would you prefer, a white nationalist dictatorship or a bunch of baby brain suckers? Nancy Pelosi is coming for our children ! :shock:...
by Wonderment
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Major Depression Diagnosis by State
Replies: 11
Views: 2057

Re: Major Depression Diagnosis by State

Mrs. Hagoth still listens to church via Zoom and was a bit miffed this week about a talk on this topic. She was expecting (hoping) for some advice about self care, but then it took a 90 degree turn and became about how you're feeling that way because you're not doing enough. You need to step it up!...
by Wonderment
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:27 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Trump & Church
Replies: 78
Views: 981454

Re: Trump & Church

I was impressed with Rusty Bowers until he said that if Trump were running against Biden again, he would vote for Trump. Even after Trump thoroughly bullied him and threatened him, Bowers will still vote for Trump again. Until Bowers said that, I thought he was very honorable. -- Wndr.
by Wonderment
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Major Depression Diagnosis by State
Replies: 11
Views: 2057

Re: Major Depression Diagnosis by State

Many thanks to Graey for bringing up this important topic. It reminds me of a joke sign that used to hang in my supervisor's office at work: "Beatings will continue until morale improves at this company." In my opinion, high demand churches tend to use a carrot and stick approach towards increasing ...
by Wonderment
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder's Quorum Service Coordinator? (Calling offered to me)
Replies: 14
Views: 2548

Re: Elder's Quorum Service Coordinator? (Calling offered to me)

I've only turned down one calling in my life, believe it or not, and that was several years ago when they tried to make me the building cleaning co-ordinator. After being very upset by the existence of the church mall, I basically said that a corporation that owned billions should not be making peo...
by Wonderment
Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 40
Views: 7135

Re: Holy Fetch!

That's amazing, RR. Part of what is happening can be attributed to your patience, understanding, and support. Please keep us posted. :) - Wndr.
by Wonderment
Sat May 14, 2022 2:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: You go Christina !!
Replies: 2
Views: 878

Re: You go Christina !!

HI Meilingkie ! Always nice to hear from you !! Thanks for sending this along ! Hope that all is well with you, and I look forward to listening to what Christina has to say. Best wishes, from Wndr. :)
by Wonderment
Fri May 13, 2022 12:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anxiety and Depression
Replies: 33
Views: 6020

Re: Anxiety and Depression

Maybe I could talk her into both seeing her counselor to see if we could set boundaries with the church in our marriage. So yeah the church is a pain in my a$$. Stuck -- This is an excellent idea.If she likes and trusts the counselor, she'll then be open to listening and considering feedback. For e...
by Wonderment
Thu May 12, 2022 8:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anxiety and Depression
Replies: 33
Views: 6020

Re: Anxiety and Depression

To add: I would like to suggest a good book, which is a true story about learning to set boundaries while living with TBM's. It's titled "Educated" by Tara Westover, who grew up in a rigidly strict Mormon family in rural Idaho. Her family was so strict, that they would not send her to school, but in...
by Wonderment
Thu May 12, 2022 8:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anxiety and Depression
Replies: 33
Views: 6020

Re: Anxiety and Depression

Xanax or other medication can help calm the symptoms for awhile, and you should do whatever your doctor directs you to do. If the Dr. has you on prescription meds, then follow the Dr.'s orders about that. But medications sometimes don't get to the heart of the anxiety and depression, which is the cr...
by Wonderment
Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How deep is your hole?
Replies: 15
Views: 2606

Re: How deep is your hole?

Here's another one. I decided to listen to Easter Sacrament Meeting this year. We have a great choir. My neighbor, a retired BYU professor, was the main speaker. He gave a really nice talk about redemption, and told the resurrection story from a very Mormon, but uplifting point of view. But then he...
by Wonderment
Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Congrats to any BYU grads!
Replies: 8
Views: 1619

Re: Congrats to any BYU grads!

Serious question -- Don't the BYU grads have something called an "ecclesiastical recommendation" or "ecclesiastical endorsement" which has to be signed off by a male university official before the grad is allowed to have a copy of the diploma and their transcripts? We used to have a poster here who ...
by Wonderment
Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A Message From Heavenly Mother
Replies: 12
Views: 2210

Re: A Message From Heavenly Mother

PS: Wonder I love your ideas and love reading your posts on NOM. If you were an active member of the church, I’d totally make you the General Relief Society President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saintz (I love hip hop too 😀) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: My dear RR - HM! !! You are SUCH a...