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by Angel
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Essay: Restoring Trust
Replies: 5
Views: 3100

Re: Essay: Restoring Trust

O that I were an angel and could cry repentance unto every .... are corporations people?
by Angel
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In Which my Family is Propelled
Replies: 10
Views: 9602

Re: In Which my Family is Propelled

... one of my children was being harassed by a priesthood leader. I'm in the same boat - with multiple kids... he video-taped what he did, so thankful it does not come down to victim shaming etc. but it is taking forever to be resolved, I suppose will never be resolved? The priesthood leader is in ...
by Angel
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Oaks and the Priesthood Ban as a Directive from God
Replies: 23
Views: 11956

Re: Oaks and the Priesthood Ban as a Directive from God

It does go against the essay. There are different versions of religion A) the massocistic, punish yourself, rigid "letter of the law" - theory where people think pain is good for you...the priesthood ban was good, it humbled them, broken heart is good, honor pain and suffering... B) the kind, joyful...
by Angel
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Emotional connectedness
Replies: 3
Views: 3234

Emotional connectedness

My DH and I are both balancing on the fence. Last weekend both of us were called to talk with the Bishop - not knowing what about... Bishop wanted to give us temple recommends back, and we both turned him down. I was relieved my DH refused to get his TR, had hopes of taking a new faith journey toget...
by Angel
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello again to all my friends.
Replies: 4
Views: 3248

Re: Hello again to all my friends.

I'm just starting my transition, hoping my DH comes along with me... thank you for your post, it is definitely comforting for those just starting on the journey to read the experiences of others and have hope in a brighter future, so thank you again.
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy in heaven
Replies: 15
Views: 11451

Re: Polygamy in heaven

I agree, who knows if... Jesus was conceived in wedlock or not He was conceived in the imaginations of those who either deliberately or accidentally merged him with several other messiah figures throughout the history of mythological systems. Any doctrine regarding his genesis is going to consist o...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy in heaven
Replies: 15
Views: 11451

Re: Polygamy in heaven

I'm new here :) polygammy is one of my issues so... I have read a bit on it. Orson Pratt taught that: "God the Father had a plurality of wives” Brigham also stated: "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy.” Polygamy - or the "law of Sarah" started with ...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy in heaven
Replies: 15
Views: 11451

Re: Polygamy in heaven

Orson Pratt taught that: "God the Father had a plurality of wives” Brigham also stated: "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy.” Polygamy - or the "law of Sarah" started with Abraham's family... Quiz time - who does Abraham and Isaac represent? (HF an...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is Heaven Like?
Replies: 7
Views: 3126

Re: What is Heaven Like?

Great thread! I think it is great therapy to define heaven for ourselves, rather than having those concepts dictated by another. I will second the view of heaven being a place of togetherness - where everyone has come to the knowledge they need to overcome past imperfections For me, there are no div...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Success is possible
Replies: 25
Views: 19742

Re: Success is possible

I decided that I don't like Christianity because it focuses so much on making everything better---for the sinner. And it just seems to abandon the sinned against as worse than the sinner if they don't forgive, while not helping with healing or protection from being harmed by further sins by the sam...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In Which my Family is Propelled
Replies: 10
Views: 9602

Re: In Which my Family is Propelled

... one of my children was being harassed by a priesthood leader. I'm in the same boat - with multiple kids... he video-taped what he did, so thankful it does not come down to victim shaming etc. but it is taking forever to be resolved, I suppose will never be resolved? The priesthood leader is in ...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Advice please? Update
Replies: 13
Views: 8039

Re: Advice please?

I second that - people don't show up for appointments all the time. I know - because I have skipped appointments before! When I first started having trouble with my DH the bishop wanted to meet with me, set up a time and everything... I did not feel comfortable talking about our issues, I did not sh...
by Angel
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello!
Replies: 7
Views: 5312

Re: Hello!

Thanks for the welcomes everyone! I wish I had found this place earlier - I think the darkness is starting to give way to light, hope it is for everyone else out there too.
by Angel
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Everything Happens for a Reason
Replies: 21
Views: 9308

Re: Everything Happens for a Reason

Everything has meaning only if we assign it meaning. I like that, and add - I think it is healthy to assign our own meaning to events, or at least to find ways to make weak things strong, and decide to be refined, rather than crushed by experiences... PTSD or PTGrowth. Is growth possible with every...
by Angel
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello!
Replies: 7
Views: 5312

Hello!

Hello! As a transitioning member, as I say goodbye to some in one community, I'm hoping to find another. I converted to the church in 97, TBM for quite some time... My faith crisis story started last summer - almost separated from my DH (kicked him out of the house for a few things...) and in the mi...
by Angel
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: the bare minimum
Replies: 10
Views: 11550

Re: the bare minimum

I did not let my TR expire, I turned it in. My DH had his taken away, and I guess I wanted to be there with him through that experience. We still go to church for the kids, we have no callings now, not even HT/VT/ministering ... some people know, others don't. We sit there quietly... it is still a g...