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by Cnsl1
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 27441

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I started watching the podcast on this. I'm really really grateful this book didn't come out when I was in my early 20s. I might have bought a bit of that kool-aid. Why? Because I was special, by God. My patriarchal blessing confirmed it. I might even be a big player during the resurrection process....
by Cnsl1
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 24
Views: 4661

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

There is something to be said regarding countenances. When a person sins their behavior changes, or rather their spirit that moves them was distracted elsewhere since the last time you observed them so they are not interacting with you on the same conscious level. I think most would at least kinda ...
by Cnsl1
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lester Bush, author of "Priesthood Ban" article dies
Replies: 7
Views: 1605

Re: Lester Bush, author of "Priesthood Ban" article dies

I could be wrong (couldn't we all at anytime and anywhere) and I don't remember the source (getting more suspect by the minute), but a guy in my ward has a sister who's best friend was on a mission with Elder McConkie's granddaughter... No, sorry, I waxed ridiculous. Cut that last part. I don't reme...
by Cnsl1
Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
Replies: 19
Views: 3724

Re: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary

On the Stay LDS forum there is some thread about nuancing the temple rec questions so that you're not lying but also getting the questions right enough to get the golden ticket. I can't remember all the ideas, but I do remember thinking of a lot of that on my own whilst I was in faith crisis but sti...
by Cnsl1
Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 27441

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I'll weigh in to the divergent thread. I became active at about 13 years old, so may have missed some of the early programming. I've never encountered any church lesson, in EQ or anywhere else, that suggested to me in any way to punish my wife. All of the lessons regarding wife were along the lines ...
by Cnsl1
Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:11 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
Replies: 37
Views: 577219

Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans

I don't follow political shit closely, but I thought for sure Trump called for the heads of those who opposed him during all that Jan 6th debacle that played out for us on national television. Now, "called for their heads" is maybe not the right description and I don't remember the exact words he us...
by Cnsl1
Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is a community garden at every church possible?
Replies: 14
Views: 6240

Re: Re:

Bonfire wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:55 pm

What does thrusting a sickle mean to you?
I don't know, but it doesn't sound like something you should be doing at church.

What was Joseph thinking when he talked about a marvelous work about to come forth?

Don't go thrusting your sickle at ward functions, Bonfire. You might get arrested.
by Cnsl1
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:03 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Examples of Exmormon Hypocrisy
Replies: 17
Views: 2691

Re: Examples of Exmormon Hypocrisy

While I'm not a fan of everything Dehlin says and does, he certainly has had guests who are clearly still Mormon. Rod Meldrum, for one. Patrick Mason for another. While Rod and Dr Mason seem very far apart in their views, they're both clearly card carrying priesthood holders. Second, no one, left/ r...
by Cnsl1
Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 24
Views: 4661

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

I'm not sure about my countenance, but I'm a better guy... without the church. I'm a happier guy... without the church. But I understand that others may need the church for happiness or comfort. I feel it's more about neurology and maybe personality than spirituality. People who are more open to new...
by Cnsl1
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:18 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Reality of Woke Ideology
Replies: 22
Views: 3225

Re: The Reality of Woke Ideology

Amen, Angel.
by Cnsl1
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Your tithing dollars at work!
Replies: 19
Views: 2841

Re: Your tithing dollars at work!

Have they announced a Queen Creek temple yet? I suppose that's next.
by Cnsl1
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doomsday family from Arizona
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Re: Doomsday family from Arizona

Distressing and weird for sure, and I feel like I know maybe a dozen or so folks from my neck of the desert who are less than a half standard deviation away from receiving a vision to pack their family into a bunker or trek to Idaho or Missouri, and maybe the only thing keeping them from falling hea...
by Cnsl1
Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 84134

Re: Fight The New Drug

Then there's the story of the man who confessed to his bishop about viewing porn and when the bishop asked for more information was told that the porn was a cosmo magazine. And with my very own ears I heard a stake president say that viewing porn was akin to adultry. He said it was the SAME THING. H...
by Cnsl1
Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:57 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Reality of Woke Ideology
Replies: 22
Views: 3225

Re: The Reality of Woke Ideology

And I totally agree with Hagoth. It's about creating false dichotomies.

Politicians and religious leaders seem to be pretty good at it.
by Cnsl1
Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:55 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Reality of Woke Ideology
Replies: 22
Views: 3225

Re: The Reality of Woke Ideology

This reminds me of the out group homogeneity effect, or the tendency to view members of the "other" group as more similar than they really are. Our political climate has also become extremely polemic--more so than I've ever seen--and the out group homogeneity effect is alive and thriving in both cam...
by Cnsl1
Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?
Replies: 9
Views: 5220

Re: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?

I think it was probably something that had bothered Nelson for many years, and he'd probably given talks about it prior to his address in.. what was it '95? By then, through repeating the dictum multiple times, he'd gained confidence/spiritual confirmation sufficient to wield his apostle wand and wa...
by Cnsl1
Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lot's Daughters
Replies: 13
Views: 6580

Re: Lot's Daughters

But his wife was even saltier. Good one! LOL That story about Lot just proves that the bible was definitely written by narcissistic men. Thanks and... yeah I believe you're right. Right from the start, Adam is too obedient to eat of the fruit of that tree, but that Eve.... Of course, she was the sm...
by Cnsl1
Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lot's Daughters
Replies: 13
Views: 6580

Re: Lot's Daughters

Lot had already offered his daughters up to rapists to save some strangers from sodomy. The rapists declined, as I remember, because they were mostly same sex rapists. Still, Lot wasn't any winning any dad of the year awards. He seemed like a bad dude. But his wife was even saltier.
by Cnsl1
Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 84134

Re: Fight The New Drug

Thank you very much, Hagoth. Also, I apologize for messing up the quotations. This is incredibly interesting research. I do remember now the study examining mostly returned missionaries. The similarities and yet clear differences in religiousity and spirituality resounds loudly with me, and supports...
by Cnsl1
Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 84134

Re: Fight The New Drug

Hagoth, please don't tease with tantalizing tidbits of neuropsych research without giving sources where we can find such succulent morsels. Oh my great God of wonder, research that suggests that the opposite of religious thinking is spirituality? I am aware of studies looking at brain areas that act...