Search found 6996 matches

by Hagoth
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Missions ARE Human Trafficking
Replies: 9
Views: 1489

Re: Mormon Missions ARE Human Trafficking

Ain't no way I'd leave my family, kids, grandkids, to go somewhere and give free labor for a multi billion$$ corporation. I believe many retired couples feel the same way but end up going because they get guilted into it, or because they are told that it will bless their children and grandchildren ...
by Hagoth
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Missions ARE Human Trafficking
Replies: 9
Views: 1489

Re: Mormon Missions ARE Human Trafficking

I've listened for 14 seconds and Holland is triggering me. He knows good and well that someone, many someones, are thinking about going home. Unless I was really weird, it is constantly on the mind of many missionaries. This is good. Thanks. I hate it when he uses his condescending don't-you-dare-t...
by Hagoth
Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Born of a virgin?
Replies: 8
Views: 992

Born of a virgin?

Just in time for Christmas, here's some interesting discussion with Bart Ehrman about the virgin birth:

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cH ... HQAAAAAQAQ
by Hagoth
Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most correct book....
Replies: 25
Views: 3969

Re: The most correct book....

The part of the BofM I really dislike the most is the part where it says that it's okay to murder someone, chop off their head, steal their belongings and justify it by you being told by an angel, of all things, that you had to do it so that others might not "dwindle" in unbelief. Dwindle? The hell...
by Hagoth
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most correct book....
Replies: 25
Views: 3969

Re: The most correct book....

Another interesting thing about NHM is that modern scholars translate it as Nihm, but on the maps in Joseph Smith's time it was Nehem. If Joseph examined one of these maps at his school or library he might have seen the word and riffed on it. Or he might have been borrowing from the Bible, as he oft...
by Hagoth
Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Missions ARE Human Trafficking
Replies: 9
Views: 1489

Re: Mormon Missions ARE Human Trafficking

moksha wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:57 am
Listen for 5 minutes and see whether this is a worthwhile way of viewing the missions.
I have listened for SIX minutes and I think she already makes a pretty good case.
by Hagoth
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most correct book....
Replies: 25
Views: 3969

Re: The most correct book....

The best thing they have is the Semitic letters NHM carved on a stone in the Arabian desert. The NHM was from an inscription on an altar in the Temple of Sheba. That is like passing through Salt Lake and only making mention of some lawyer from an advertisement at a bus stop. Here it is, the entire ...
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most correct book....
Replies: 25
Views: 3969

Re: The most correct book....

The "most correct book" claim points directly to the fact that the church makes specific real-world truth claims about people, places, and things, but not one of those physical, earthly claims can be supported by evidence. The best thing they have is the Semitic letters NHM carved on a stone in the ...
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Real people
Replies: 17
Views: 2290

Re: Real people

If I knew I was going to be a god pretty soon because I got a magical foot washing I would probably be highly motivated to continue believing it. That would inspire me to consider that 99.999% of the people I encounter every day are mere mortals who, if I only knew better, would soon recognize that ...
by Hagoth
Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:33 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

Look at me, responding to my own post... See, I knew it! You really are Moksha. That's why I've seen you in real life but I've never seen him. The Clark Kent glasses don't fool me. This conversation topic is fueling the populist angst. If someone votes or promotes the mandate of low-flow toilets an...
by Hagoth
Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:24 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

Why???........ because Trump makes it about the show and he is the show and he is running for a political office. The people are a hell of a lot more interesting than the show. Exactly! And when he or anyone else who has that kind of rabid following shoots off his mouth about science that he doesn'...
by Hagoth
Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:20 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

You mean to tell me that it is not about having harmful levels of CO2? The only thing that those who are concerned about climate change talk about is the hazardous levels of carbon dioxide. Doesn't the reduction of harmful CO2 necessitate the use of renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, wav...
by Hagoth
Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:47 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

What makes you think that the oil production was politically influenced, or not, and that the wind farms are politically influenced, or not? Comparing wind turbines to political hats and religious propaganda seems a bit conspiratorial. Yes, it does sound conspiratorial because that tendency to make...
by Hagoth
Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:01 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

It's not about unhealthy levels of CO2. Your lungs are filled high concentrations of C02 before every exhalation. It's about increasing atmospheric temperatures. It's about increasing ocean temperatures. It's about methane released by increased water temperatures. It's about melting icecaps. I'm not...
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:54 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

DB, here was the original conversation: DB: Don't trust climate science. Increased CO2 is a good thing. There is a global religion of climate scientists intent on reducing the population. It is scary to do something. Hagoth: Trust climate science. Increased CO2 is a bad thing. There is no global con...
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:37 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

Why do you want scientists to stop being scientists when it comes to the consensus of climate change? Do have any respect for at least one scientists who disagrees with your precious climate consensus? Because if you don't, and you only respect people who agree with the "consensus," your precious c...
by Hagoth
Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:19 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

Why do you want scientists to stop being scientists when it comes to the consensus of climate change? Do have any respect for at least one scientists who disagrees with your precious climate consensus? Because if you don't, and you only respect people who agree with the "consensus," your precious c...
by Hagoth
Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:59 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

Dirty Bird wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:05 am

I have a background using common sense. Is that sufficient, or do I need a PHD or somethin?
And you just assume no one else does, including all of the people who are experts.
by Hagoth
Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:56 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

On the other thing, I will bite. The depopulation thing is not about the environment. Its just a fad among hippies and fancy people. I am cool with it. People who dont like kids or dont care for kids shouldnt have kids. People who think their electric car is better for the environment than my Mom’s...
by Hagoth
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:03 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Replies: 60
Views: 56262

Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days

Actually, it is much more accurate to compare Mormonism to your type science denial than to the scientific consensus, DB. You entirely overlook the single differentiating element. Mormonism can produce zero evidence to support its claims. Climate science has produced massive bodies of evidence. It i...