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- Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:45 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Refuted Parallels of Jesus & Ancient Saviors Again...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5823
Re: Refuted Parallels of Jesus & Ancient Saviors Again...
I have studied some on this topic and Mohamed is the last “savior” that I would pick to show parallels to the Jesus myth. So, to me Dan Peterson sets up a straw man in Mohamed that is supper easy to knock down. Mohamed is seen as a prophet, not a Savior. Now, if Dan Peterson wants to educate himself...
- Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:53 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
- Replies: 38
- Views: 20814
Re: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
- Me wanting to learn more about church history and doctrine (starting in 2012) is the same as committing adultery. How? Because, according to DW, I knew that in digging I would find issues that would lead me to question the church. This desire to know more about the church is selfish and thus the ...
- Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:38 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Love is not an excuse
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6679
Re: Love is not an excuse
I have noticed when leaders talk they tend to be invoke the love factor. They constantly say how much they love everyone and how humbled they are by it Frankly it annoys me. It is almost like it is used as an excuse sometimes. I love you so that justifies the comments I am going to make. Is it love...
- Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:57 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
- Replies: 38
- Views: 20814
Re: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
Your wife KNOWS that if a person digs into church history, they will find all kinds of problems that say the church might not be what it claims, but she knows the church is true. Wow, just wow! She knows good and well the church isn’t true like it claims, but the church is still true, like it claims...
- Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:35 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
- Replies: 38
- Views: 20814
Re: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
So many of us on this board are in the same boat, and there is some great advice here, and RR's list is invaluable, including his addendums. The only advice I can give is to realize that however hard it is, don't take the fact that your wife loves the priesthood holder you over the REAL you persona...
- Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:42 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
- Replies: 127
- Views: 62872
Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Pascal's wager has always seemed deeply flawed to me because it is entirely dependent on the premises of a given belief system. John Larsen was the speaker at our Oasis meeting yesterday. Mentioned an Evangelical friend of his who agrees with John that, from his Evangelical point of view, there is ...
- Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:27 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New topless ruling for Utah
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22187
Re: New topless ruling for Utah
I'd like to propose that well informed men who are of good character, see women's breasts as both functional in the nurturing of infants and as sexual parts of the female anatomy as well. And I think that's a healthy outlook. Obviously I don't agree with the exploitive trends in our society that em...
- Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:12 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
- Replies: 38
- Views: 20814
Re: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
First of all ((hugs)) This rough, and we are here for you. Before you chose a path, I want to tell you a few things about your DW. I don't know her personally. But I know some things that might help you chose your path. Young women in the church are taught that if we don't marry a worthy return mis...
- Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:48 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New topless ruling for Utah
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22187
Re: New topless ruling for Utah
But it isn’t lady like to let on to the men what we all find sexy, so we don’t tell often. It’s one of the things the girls talk about, but don’t often tell the guys. That would be an interesting topic of conversation. Women tell each other stuff about their way of thinking, but they keep men in th...
- Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:28 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New topless ruling for Utah
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22187
Re: New topless ruling for Utah
I'd like to propose that well informed men who are of good character, see women's breasts as both functional in the nurturing of infants and as sexual parts of the female anatomy as well. And I think that's a healthy outlook. Obviously I don't agree with the exploitive trends in our society that em...
- Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New topless ruling for Utah
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22187
- Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
- Replies: 127
- Views: 62872
Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
This reminds me of John Larsen's analogy about the wall and the flashlight. We can replace the wall with the arch. You're standing in a dark room examining a brick wall with a flashlight. You point the light at a single brick and see that it is cracked and crumbling. "It's ok," you say, "the wall o...
- Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:45 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
- Replies: 127
- Views: 62872
Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
But if you remove the book of Abraham stone, the arch falls. If you remove the Book of Mormon stone, the arch falls. If you remove the Jesus stone, the arch falls. Sorry.. I never got around to the punchline of my comment. Everyone whose shelf collapses has something in particular that triggers the...
- Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:51 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Which “group” do you most closely align with?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6552
Re: Which “group” do you most closely align with?
Well, since naturists are on the list, I would align with that group (not necessarily the LDS version, but here's a link for you anyway). http://ldssdf.org/v2/ Well, I might not be quite that natural, seeing as I like to have boob support and to cover surgery scars and baby stretch marks. But I thi...
- Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:30 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
- Replies: 127
- Views: 62872
Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Guys, you are arguing over which one element of the church is the “key stone”. Now, step back. What exactly is a key stone? It is the top stone in an arch, which if removed, the whole arch falls. Only problem is that if you remove the stone next to the key stone, the whole arch falls. See, in an arc...
- Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:53 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: I need help. Im so lost, I hurt, she hurts. I have no hope.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6682
Re: I need help. Im so lost, I hurt, she hurts. I have no hope.
I am a retired social worker and did a small amount of what would be called marriage counseling with couples where there had been domestic violence, and I do have one thought from my experience and that is that it is never a good idea to tell your spouse your sexual fantasies, or even that you have ...
- Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:35 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Major changes to organizations and auxiliaries set for October conference
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5577
Re: Major changes to organizations and auxiliaries set for October conference
So it would make sense that they make some organizational changes to streamline their corporate structure and then throw a small bone to women by letting them be a witness... I mean it's all a lie anyway so what does it matter? But yeah - giving women the ability to be a "witness" will absolutely g...
- Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:35 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New topless ruling for Utah
- Replies: 43
- Views: 22187
Re: New topless ruling for Utah
Huh? :?: George Langel of Ft. Collins pointed out what he says is a contradiction of laws: Just seems like a contradictory of laws a woman can expose her breasts, but a man can’t go in an alley behind a dumpster and take a pee without coming up on criminal charges. How is baring one's chest in publ...
- Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:08 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Resume fun
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5000
Re: Resume fun
Before I had any real job experience, except mother of three, I was advised to put down volunteer experience. I had a bit of that, even in the mental health field. Whoever the advisor was, I asked specifically about church volunteer positions and without knowing I was Mormon or being Mormon himself ...
- Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:07 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Pres Nelson's BYU Speech Today
- Replies: 54
- Views: 25018
Re: Pres Nelson's BYU Speech Today
I am just now getting up to speed with Ol' Nellie's talk. Can anyone explain why he would even talk about the policy reversal like this right now? I know it was a topic of discussion for a while after it happened, but like most news, seemed like the tide had past. Is the policy reversal still a hot...