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by oliver_denom
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 8996

Re: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

The LDS church is not at all democratic, there aren't any elections or representatives. They will opt to weather the storm. I wouldn't expect any significant changes in our lifetime. If anything, the move of other churches to less literal and more spiritual positions will probably encourage them to...
by oliver_denom
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 8996

Re: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

StarbucksMom wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:05 am
What is a "Folk Religion?" Would Mormons be in the folk or other category?
It refers to some loose collection of cultural spirituality and superstitions that aren't formalized into a religious system. Mormonism would be lumped under Christianity.
by oliver_denom
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 8996

Re: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

From what i've read, the entire country has a decline in church goers. Millenials are just not buying a lot of organized "helf fire & damnation" religion, or even some of the more liberal as well. The LDS church is in that same soup. You might find this interesting. One possible explanation in decl...
by oliver_denom
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 8996

Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

Going more conservative and fundamentalist has proven a failed strategy for Southern Baptists. For more than a decade, the denomination has been experiencing precipitous decline by almost every metric. Baptisms are at a 70-year low, and Sunday attendance is at a 20-year low. Southern Baptist churche...
by oliver_denom
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Do You Come From Royal Blood?
Replies: 26
Views: 14438

Re: Do You Come From Royal Blood?

It's like I tell people on reddit, bragging about royal ancestry doesn't make you special, it just makes you an asshole.
by oliver_denom
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What Happens when you tell the In-laws that your family is no more
Replies: 12
Views: 8538

Re: What Happens when you tell the In-laws that your family is no more

A little insight I have gained that I have yet to understand: For a religion that was and is persecuted and tries to preach to the rest of the church That they should be tolerated they produce some of the most intolerant people. It's all one way. They want it, but they don't want to give it. Once t...
by oliver_denom
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Corsair's Visit to Nauvoo with Believers
Replies: 28
Views: 17936

Re: Corsair's Visit to Nauvoo with Believers

My in-laws just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary and they wanted a trip to Nauvoo with all of their children and grandchildren. T I have a question. Is it pretty common for the grandparent generation to plan vacations to churchy spots so they can get all of their wayward (inactive) childre...
by oliver_denom
Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Things are rapidly changing in the LDS Church!!!
Replies: 19
Views: 12542

Re: Things are rapidly changing in the LDS Church!!!

They ditched Home teaching and replaced it with an identical program called Ministering. Feel the change! Old men and young men now meet together for an hour every Sunday instead of separate. Wow, that is change, real, honest to goodness change. Now I’ll grant you, leaving the Scouting program is a...
by oliver_denom
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Steven Hassan's survey on controlling groups
Replies: 12
Views: 6071

Re: Steven Hassan's survey on controlling groups

I listened to the Mormon Stories podcast on this. The first thing that came to mind was the fact that the entire model just seemed so anecdotal. It's not as if a scientific definition exists as to what constitutes a dangerous group, and it's even more difficult when you try to pin down an answer for...
by oliver_denom
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Advice please? Update
Replies: 13
Views: 8031

Re: Advice please?

It sounds to me like you don’t want to go! You don’t need anyone’s permission to cancel or go to a meeting with someone you don’t want to see. You just need your own permission to not go, it’s ok to listen to yourself! Realize you don’t have to do anything. You don’t owe anyone an interaction ever ...
by oliver_denom
Thu May 31, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The brethren's lack of faith
Replies: 12
Views: 7839

Re: The brethren's lack of faith

Instead, they teach that you should donate even if it's at the expense of necessities like shelter or food. That's what's wrong. We should be more like the brethren on this point, not less. I agree with you completely, except that they've way over-done it with their rainy-day fund. That is a hell o...
by oliver_denom
Thu May 31, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The brethren's lack of faith
Replies: 12
Views: 7839

Re: The brethren's lack of faith

We recently learned that the brethren have a gigantic "emergency fund". Why? Where is their faith? This goes directly against the teachings of Jesus. ... They apparently don't believe the above scriptures. They also refuse to follow Christ's instructions that he gave to his 12 apostles to travel wi...
by oliver_denom
Wed May 30, 2018 7:00 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In Which my Family is Propelled
Replies: 10
Views: 9543

Re: In Which my Family is Propelled

Exactly. On a family level, I am now the harbinger of sad heaven... that's a lot of responsibility, being able to turn someone's heaven into hell... That's a lot of power you've got there. It's one thing to ruin Christmas, but it's a whole other thing to ruin heaven. You'd have to be more powerful ...
by oliver_denom
Tue May 29, 2018 6:35 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In Which my Family is Propelled
Replies: 10
Views: 9543

Re: In Which my Family is Propelled

But my MIL, my mother, my ward even have a large interest in me being there. If my Family is out, I (we) hold all the cards. Yes, this. I don't know why it took so long for me to see the real power dynamic. The church has done such a fabulous job indoctrinating us with the belief that we need the c...
by oliver_denom
Thu May 24, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: This is a great thread on AskReddit, insane stories from the Bible.
Replies: 17
Views: 8954

Re: This is a great thread on AskReddit, insane stories from the Bible.

Corsair wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 7:57 am
I can assure you that while he was quickly ecommunicated, he absolutely did not die.
I guess the Stake President just wasn't faithful enough.
by oliver_denom
Wed May 23, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: This is a great thread on AskReddit, insane stories from the Bible.
Replies: 17
Views: 8954

Re: This is a great thread on AskReddit, insane stories from the Bible.

No one mentioned Ananias and Sapphira. They were supposed to be living the law of consecration, but these two secretly sold land and kept the money for themselves. Peter finds out about it and strikes them dead on the spot.
by oliver_denom
Thu May 17, 2018 12:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Lucy Code
Replies: 8
Views: 5674

Re: The Lucy Code

It's possible it could be source material considering the other aspects of Masonry Joseph used in Mormonism. In my mind there's a pretty strong pattern of Joseph Smith borrowing ideas from his surroundings. This is the one thing that the video never addressed, the presence of some seemingly anti-ma...
by oliver_denom
Wed May 16, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Lucy Code
Replies: 8
Views: 5674

Re: The Lucy Code

It's unprovable, of course, but I'm reminded of the narratives I've read from Mormon apologists in the past when they're trying to provide evidence that the Book of Mormon is an ancient record. This is more solid than any Book of Mormon archaeology proof ever created. It's more provable than the hoo...
by oliver_denom
Mon May 07, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Being a NOM pisses me off. What do I do?
Replies: 17
Views: 7755

Re: Being a NOM pisses me off. What do I do?

My goal is to become indifferent towards Mormonism. And I question whether that's possible if I continue being a NOM. Am I just going through a phase and need to calm down? How can I be indifferent and "active" in Mormonism when all I hear is s*** every Sunday. Do I manage it? Or do I walk away? Wo...
by oliver_denom
Sat May 05, 2018 7:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Difference between a NOM and an Exmo
Replies: 14
Views: 6857

Re: Difference between a NOM and an Exmo

There's a gradient spectrum when it comes to belief and activity. I'd say that the NOM portion of the rainbow sort of begins with someone who customizes Mormonism, either belief or practice, outside the accepted boundaries set by the orthodoxy. There's some leeway near the edges where some personal ...