NOM

And that, my friends, is one thing Mormonism has taught us - other people are a means to an end. You don't serve people because you love them, you serve them because you are supposed to and God wants you to and you'd better if you want to make it to the tippity top of the Celestial Kingdom. Looking...

I haven't been active on this site for a few months, and stumbled on your posts, Kish. Thanks so much for creating the Facebook site. It makes it all much more personal. As I see the photo of you holding your precious Ruby, it makes my heart weep with sympathy. I'm a dad myself of a beautiful, sassy...

You could tell a bunch of stories of members struggling who asked for a priesthood blessing, die anyway, and then say that the Lord knows us enough to know it was time and no amount of consecrated oil can change that. You could also throw in some observation like: Anyone can be healed if they have ...

I hear you, Slavereeno. Interestingly, one of the minor things that kept eating at my faith from fairly early on was the discovery that there are very good people, deeply moral, intelligent, with engaging and interesting views, who weren't LDS. If "having the light of the gospel" were all it's crack...

Sad truth is that homo sapiens is not a particularly rational species of animal. I think Plato was more correct in this regard, defining humans as "featherless bipeds". Aristotle's "rational animal" just doesn't seem to fit. People believe what they believe for many reasons, and tend to ignore logic...

Oh man. I have a little girl who's a young adult now. I can imagine the pain, and what I imagine, hurts a lot. I'm so sorry. My thoughts and empathy are with Kish and family at this tough time, just for what little it may be worth. This prompts a memory for me: I remember as a newly minted returned ...

onesmartdog wrote:When you have learned what I have you won’t need to ask me why.

I love this!

The church is becoming less useful in my life. I now put a 5% effort into church, yet I’m physically exhausted still. It would be a totally different story if the Church were true, wouldn't it? All the parables about the pearl of great price, the man selling all his goods to buy the field with the ...

Mormons are always trying to see them on other Mormons though...I’ve been garment checked by several family members and had a brother call me out for not wearing them. I got a big hug a couple holiday seasons ago from a woman I had known 20 years earlier in a singles ward we both attended. It was s...

I think for many people it's like being in a warm bath. Not a really pleasant hot bath, but just that temperature where it's no longer really enjoyable, but once you get out you're going to be cold, looking for a towel, having to search through a basket of clothes if (like me) you're not really good...

Like most other NOMers here, I was never looking for reasons to cease to believe the faith of my youth. I also never felt the need for more evidence- I just wanted strength to walk uprightly and live a life acceptable to the Lord. What I never anticipated was the vast amount of physical evidence tha...

I remember being mesmerized by this idea as a teenager in Seminary. The big idea in Brigham Young's day was that the human "seed" was of divine origin- humans weren't just made in God's image, but God was Adam's physical father; and thus were worlds created and seeded. This has been blown apart by s...

Given that "I" am largely a function of my genes ... it seems to make no sense to say that "I" would exist at all if any detail of my genetic past were altered in the least I just realized I left out the question... How would life have been different for me if anything at all about my prehistory, u...

Deep question. Given that "I" am largely a function of my genes, and that a particular egg and sperm needed to come together to produce my complete genome, and in addition that particular sperm had to out-compete 100,000,000 other sperm for the same honor- it seems to make no sense to say that "I" w...

I remember even as a missionary being perplexed by Abinadi, and 3 Nephi: "I come .. to do the will, both of the Father and of the Son—of the Father because of me, and of the Son because of my flesh." It was when I stumbled on a photocopy of the original 1830 BofM and saw all the changes in wording f...

Palerider wrote:Accidental post...I'm too tired to be doing this right now.

'Sokay, Pale. Get a good night's rest and try again in the morning.

One big step forward in my transformation from believer to non-believer was the realization that morality is just as real, just as empirically true and valid, without religion as with it. In fact, any attempt to describe just why God is good without acknowledging that he is good (if he exists at all...

Keewon wrote: ↑ Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:51 pm As Elijah said: "... or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.” So the Old Testament God was Cthulhu? It would be interesting to juxtapose some passages from H. P. Lovecraft with Old Testament passages and see how many Gospel Doctrine class regulars w...

When I admitted to doing it she was upset but I told her it wasn't to disrespect her but it helped me feel happier about my situation. For me, it was never about positivity or negativity, or respect or disrespect, but just wanting to know the plain truth because truth matters. And even then it wasn...

Just sayin'..... https://www.christian.org.uk/news/girls ... l-toilets/ I just wanted to say, the whole issue of transgendered individuals & restrooms is something I haven't given much thought to, and so should hold off speculating. I honestly had never thought of the problems mentioned in your lin...