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by Not Buying It
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Keep Sweet" or I will break you.
Replies: 25
Views: 5326

Re: "Keep Sweet" or I will break you.

It actually kind of pissed me off they went so easy on the LDS Church. The whole reason Rulon and Warren Jeffs were able to have the power to make the lives of so many of their followers to miserable is because Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and John Taylor and their gang laid the groundwork. The kind...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Are LDS hyper-sensitive about religion?
Replies: 7
Views: 1540

Re: Are LDS hyper-sensitive about religion?

Many elements of Latter-Day Saint history and doctrine sound weird, cultish, and/or humorous when spoken out loud or by non-members. So, yes, I think many LDS people are hypersensitive about having outsiders - or even insiders in some cases - talk about those things. Mormons are also raised with a ...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is it wrong to be apathetic to the world’s problems?
Replies: 10
Views: 1812

Re: Is it wrong to be apathetic to the world’s problems?

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference. - Reinhold Niebuhr, 1932 It's a VERY big world and a person is a VERY small part of it. You an drive yourself insane caring for all the world's problems. Apathy is...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 40
Views: 7256

Re: Holy Fetch!

I am glad to hear she may be coming around, and I hope things continue to move in that direction. Something similar happened with my wife about a year ago, I didn't think she was ever going to come around, then a Youtuber she watches did a takedown of the Church and destroyed her shelf. Gotta admit,...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Education and commitment
Replies: 11
Views: 2279

Re: Education and commitment

You know, I am kind of offended that your referred to this Church leader as simply "David Bednar". The appropriate name to reference him by is "Susan Bednar's Husband". I apologize profusely for my disrespect to Susan Bednar's husband's wife. His middle name is Pickles 🤣 Heh, I'd forgotten about th...
by Not Buying It
Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Education and commitment
Replies: 11
Views: 2279

Re: Education and commitment

On a recent Mormon Stories, JD, RMF and Gerardo talk about a speech given to the Nation Press Club by David Bednar. You can watch the review here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1STMu-AswM . Near the end, they report that Bednar repeated the claim that in the Mormon Church, the more educated a me...
by Not Buying It
Wed May 18, 2022 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Earthly Identifiers" or "Don't Be Gay"
Replies: 27
Views: 4259

Re: "Earthly Identifiers" or "Don't Be Gay"

More of the same. Definitely. The Brethren give lip service to not judging people based on race or orientation as they consistently discriminate against people based on sexual orientation. Parts of his talk are specifically designed to make members feel like they aren't bigots while they engage in b...
by Not Buying It
Fri May 13, 2022 9:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show
Replies: 41
Views: 7964

Re: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show

But I will also say this - while the miniseries gets much right about Mormonism, by far and away the vast majority of Church members are non-violent. The hypothesis that violence in Church history breeds violence in modern Church members is specious and unsupportable. That a weirdo family used viol...
by Not Buying It
Fri May 13, 2022 5:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Destigmatizing Therapy
Replies: 20
Views: 4170

Re: Destigmatizing Therapy

It is true that stigmatization of therapy is hardly a Mormon phenomenon, but I have to say, the Church certainly made that problem worse for its members. It has taught them that living the gospel leads to happiness - ergo anything that makes one unhappy isn't something handled by therapy, but by fol...
by Not Buying It
Fri May 13, 2022 5:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show
Replies: 41
Views: 7964

Re: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show

... Here's what's on the official newsroom page: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-response-to-jon-krakauers-under-the-banner-of-heaven ... Wow. I tried to read through that. The logical fallacies and misdirection in the first blurb made me "Run Away!!!" I perused the rest, bu...
by Not Buying It
Tue May 03, 2022 10:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Skewed Morality
Replies: 12
Views: 2217

Re: Skewed Morality

Well you know, all the weird rules were never about teaching you morality anyway. Think about temple recommend interviews - nothing about compassion, or kindness, or Christ-like behavior, just a bunch of more or less uniquely Mormon rules like WoW and wearing your garments day and night and stuff li...
by Not Buying It
Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: We don't do nepotism, some families are just more into the Spirit (TM)
Replies: 8
Views: 1895

Re: We don't do nepotism, some families are just more into the Spirit (TM)

Nepotism has literally been baked into the Church from the beginning, and to this day those with the most power in the Church have a tendency to set family members up in high level Church positions. President Hinckley may have "recused" himself when his son was called as a General Authority, but it ...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A product of his time
Replies: 9
Views: 2336

Re: A product of his time

"A product of his time" never works for me when I know there were people who rose above that who were living at the same time. In a time when there were abolitionists who risked a lot to fight slavery, I'm not giving Brigham Young a pass on this. God has a weird aversion to revealing things to his "...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show
Replies: 41
Views: 7964

Re: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show

Rumor has it that LD$-Inc. is in the process of producing a new, informative movie about the temple ceremony that shows the clothing and lots of other stuff that us old folks were told to keep secret . (Though I highly doubt it will mention all that gruesome "fun stuff" that us pre-1990 folks got t...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: April Fools Day Unmasking
Replies: 14
Views: 2748

Re: April Fools Day Unmasking

Be careful though - I got burned one time during Unmasking, there were people monitoring this Board I didn't think would, and I had to "come out" to a family member before I was really ready to. Don't do it if there is anyone in your life you are uncomfortable about knowing you participate here. Onl...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Religion/politics
Replies: 12
Views: 1904

Re: Religion/politics

My political views changed significantly once I realized there was no longer a need to care about what some really old men in Salt Lake think on issues. Once I realized there was no need for me to hold on to positions on, say, gay marriage or women's rights just because seem out of touch old men tau...
by Not Buying It
Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Baptizing Lamanites
Replies: 1
Views: 512

Re: Baptizing Lamanites

Hardly the only widespread thing said in the Church that is racist. Good for them for highlighting and trying to eliminate things like this, but I'm afraid racism is pretty much baked into the organization. Misogyny most certainly is. That makes changing things nigh unto impossible.
by Not Buying It
Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Choose to believe?
Replies: 26
Views: 5171

Re: Choose to believe?

I don't think I could "choose" to believe at this point, any more than I could choose to believe the sky is brown or that 2+2 = 5. I could pretend I believe, but I would know I was only pretending. All the evidence is right there in front of my eyes, and now that I have seen it, I can't unsee it. Ma...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: CES/BYU Employee new requirements
Replies: 15
Views: 4243

Re: CES/BYU Employee new requirements

Some of this stuff has already been in the news and we're familiar with it but there are some new items that I'm sure NOMers would be very interested in: Not only do they now need to have a temple recommend (not just be temple worthy) but they also have to answer these ADDITIONAL questions: Does th...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Updated list of Humble Braggage
Replies: 7
Views: 2206

Re: Updated list of Humble Braggage

I think it was Rasband who declared that he was one of the "weak and foolish" called to serve God. Of course he had a 7 figure salary before being a GA. Elder Rasband does not actually consider himself either weak or foolish, he is as full of himself as they come. He was being pretty disingenuous w...