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by fetchface
Fri May 07, 2021 9:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is forgiveness required?
Replies: 19
Views: 5210

Re: Is forgiveness required?

Forgiveness is a nebulous term. I think a lot of people like to say it is required, because they are Christian and Jesus said it is required. Outside of that, I don't see why it would be. You want to let go of toxic anger for your own mental health and all that for sure. Sometimes that means coming ...
by fetchface
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 24322

Re: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

I think there may have been an effort to bring endowed women back under bishopric courts. I personally know of a local endowed woman who cheated on her husband and that was handled by a bishopric court. I heard the story directly from her so I trust its accuracy. This was a few years ago. I just don...
by fetchface
Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 156
Views: 45316

Re: Forced Turning Point

I have a hard time imagining, as an unbeliever, being a bishop. When I lost my faith, one of the first feelings that washed over me was a profound sense of relief that I would never have to be a bishop. So beetbox's words ring true to me. All I can think is that you and I must be pretty different fo...
by fetchface
Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormonism my way ?
Replies: 12
Views: 4350

Re: Mormonism my way ?

I was attending in jeans and colorful short-sleeved button-up shirts up until the Covid shutdown. I think it definitely sends the message that you aren't a company man, but nobody ever said anything to me. I was resigned and attending sacrament meeting with my wife, though. Zealous members might try...
by fetchface
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!
Replies: 47
Views: 15331

Re: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

I've read thousands of pages of books on church history. If that's what a lazy learner is, I don't know what it could possibly look like to not be lazy, lol.
by fetchface
Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 35
Views: 12116

Re: The 2020 numbers

I have lost track of how many reddit posts I've seen where a pre-Covid TBM found themselves with time on their hands and unpacked their shelf during lockdown, and now they're out (and some resigned). I concur that Covid hit the church hard. My wife was pretty all-in until Covid. The way she describ...
by fetchface
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 35
Views: 12116

Re: The 2020 numbers

Well, if I know the church, and I do know the church, I know that these numbers are fudged in some way. The real question is: how fudged are they? My personal experience is that I know of far more resignations in my social circle this year than any other year since my disaffection in 2012. Covid too...
by fetchface
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 156
Views: 45316

Re: Forced Turning Point

For whatever reason, the church seems extremely reluctant to release bishops early. This gives you power. As long as you steer clear of certain things, you can probably have wide latitude to run things as you see fit even if it is pretty different from the way things are typically run. If your SP do...
by fetchface
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 52
Views: 14587

Re: General Konference Predictions

I predict that if you take all of the most interesting parts of all of the 10 hours and distil them into 10 minutes, it will still be a pretty damn boring 10 minutes.
by fetchface
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ward Mission Leaders are annoying
Replies: 13
Views: 4202

Re: Ward Mission Leaders are annoying

The missionaries stopped by my house last night. It was a surreal experience listening to my wife explain that we'd all recently sent in our resignation letters. I'm so grateful I didn't have to listen to a message from them or something. Tender mercies. Of course, then they had to ask two or three ...
by fetchface
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:38 pm
Fetch let me help you out here.

Mexican Food + Beer = Men
Mexican Food + Margarita’s = Women

Women + Margarita’s = Horny
Men + Mexican Food = Gassy

Gassy + Horny = Sexy Fail

While I’m doing Mormon math:

Women - Mormonism = no G’s

No G’s = Sexy Success!
Lol. Love it!
by fetchface
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Oh, there was definitely something off with the beer. If it had been mine, I wouldn't have drunk it, but my wife didn't know any better. I've been known to get the spicy mango margarita from one of the other Mexican places here in town but this place doesn't have a bar and we were just picking up ta...
by fetchface
Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Fetchface, tell us more of the continuing after-effects. Well, we had a glass of wine with dinner the other night and my wife commented that she didn't really feel much different other than a warm feeling in her cheeks and ears. I told her that the biggest surprise for me when I had my first drink ...
by fetchface
Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Wow! :o Yeah, maybe COVID helped you out of the Church. I think it was instrumental in allowing time for reflection. It may have happened anyway but the timeline would probably have been slower. My wife told me that over the past year she has been trying life out without various aspects of the chur...
by fetchface
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

moksha wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:06 pm
Sometimes the desire for a Diet Coke becomes unquenchable.
Indeed, but my wife gets exceptionally talkative when she drinks caffeine for some reason so heaven help me!
by fetchface
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Communicating and the risk of being misunderstood
Replies: 8
Views: 3145

Re: Communicating and the risk of being misunderstood

I love Hermey's pictures. That one pretty much says it.
by fetchface
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Thanks, guys! Right now she seems pretty motivated to make this official. She just sent in the family resignation letter! It's going to be really kind of weird to not have the church hanging over my life in any real way. My only exposure will be when I visit my parents, I guess? It really seems like...
by fetchface
Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Well, the conversation with the kids went well. None of them seem at all bothered that we are all resigning. I think they'll miss activities with the others but other social groups can be found... Is quitmormon too much of a bother these days? Should we just send the resignation letters straight to ...
by fetchface
Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I'm thinking it would be nice to have the conversation sooner rather than later with the kids. Maybe tomorrow.
by fetchface
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 30
Views: 10634

Wife dropped a bomb on me

Out of the blue last night, she says to me that she is done with the church. Like wants to resign and everything, and wants the kids names removed as well. I had to say that we need to slow down just a bit and talk this out with the kids (4 teens). While none of them is super enthusiastic about chur...