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- Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:13 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: It's not all my fault?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 13589
Re: It's not all my fault?
Be the best husband you can possibly be. She expects that this is a slippery slope issue and you will go from this “sin” on to other sins and pretty soon, you are a drunk who beats her and has lost his job. This advice is very wise, and I would only add work really hard at seeing the situation from...
- Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:02 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1282
Re: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?
I'm not sure I would call the frequent use of "covenant path" a fad. I'm guessing the GAs are trying to get or keep membership on the "covenant path", not just discuss it (especially with critics), and that they view small memorable sound bites repeated over and over again as mnemonic aids in this e...
- Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:26 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: counselor?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 545
Re: counselor?
Thanks, Red and Pale. Are you siblings by any chance? Just wondering since you share the same last name... Just kidding of course! :) Thanks for the good suggestions. You folks have been around for a long time. I'm impressed at your kindness to stay and help folks through their faith-related struggl...
- Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:00 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: counselor?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 545
counselor?
Hi again!! I used to hang around this site some years ago, and greatly benefited from the wisdom and camaraderie here. Now, I've been struggling with a family-related question, not sure where to turn, and it suddenly popped into my head to try here yet again. Background: I have a 23 year old son, on...
- Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: An April Fools' Reminder: Mormon Youth Sex Interviews Are Foolish
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3471
Re: An April Fools' Reminder: Mormon Youth Sex Interviews Are Foolish
I was naive about so many things church-related until I began to hear others' experiences years after my LDS mission. I never had a church leader bring up sexual behavior in an interview- I always had to bring it up with them. They always seemed like they'd rather not deal with it. When I brought it...
- Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:20 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Trigger Warning: Surviving Sexual Assault
- Replies: 21
- Views: 7631
Re: Trigger Warning: Surviving Sexual Assault
This was a real problem for me, a real self-esteem crusher, to be told that I was chewed gum, that I should have fought back harder. I was *five*, people! Your story is painful to hear. Certain bible passages having to do with millstones and the depths of the sea and all that come to mind. I'm sorr...
- Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Any genetic evidence found of Lehi's migration to America?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 9787
Re: Any genetic evidence found of Lehi's migration to America?
These days LDS apologetics is pretty much about trying to convince you that the Nephites, Lamanites, Mulekites, and Jaredites were such small and insignificant populations that they left no trace at all, and were specifically targeted and eliminated by disease. The apologists certainly seem to have...
- Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:03 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Another Lawsuit
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4534
Re: Another Lawsuit
Even the Quorum of the Twelve had no knowledge of that huge investment fund. The mafia could take lessons from LDS secrecy. Apparently even the left hand knoweth not what the left hand doeth. I've always been of the belief that the scientific method doesn't go far enough. More than just double blin...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:08 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A So-Called Beloved Daughter
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4996
Re: A So-Called Beloved Daughter
Welcome to NOM, hallew. Your story is painful and all too common. The only thing I can think of to say is some advice my mission president gave me- when you pray, be honest with God. That includes every negative thought, all your anger, all of it. Don't try to manufacture feelings. If you're pretty ...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:50 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Forced Turning Point
- Replies: 156
- Views: 44858
Re: Forced Turning Point
One of my more successful experiences with an uncomfortable interview was when the EQP asked to speak with me, clearly about my decreasing level of activity in the church. Once we started I took over the conversation, asked him about his work, found it interesting enough to dig deeper, asked questio...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:43 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: MIL Innocently Indoctrinating my Kids
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3882
Re: MIL Innocently Indoctrinating my Kids
My dad explained that Satan was like Santa- he's your dad.2bizE wrote:Something I want to learn more about and teach my children is that Satan is not real.
I guess he would know on both counts...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:38 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: We now know what Hagoth did when he left in a ship
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4615
Re: We now know what Hagoth did when he left in a ship
Ancient Origins is a semi-reputable site that ranges from accurate archeology to wild conjectures about ancient aliens and Atlantis. I prefer calm, sane conjectures about ancient aliens and Atlantis for my taste. If someone can actually identify them by their first name (the aliens that is), that m...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:14 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
- Replies: 88
- Views: 29397
Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Of course, the one thing that would solve the problem is for the church to take owner ship and address these problem head on with honesty and transparency. But we know the church will not do that because they neither accept or give apologies. They don't have to give apologize. They're rich to the g...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:48 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is Christianity Dying?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8824
Re: Is Christianity Dying?
I wonder sometimes whether civilization needs religion to remain stable. Civilizations obviously "want" religion, since it always pops up. Secular European countries seem to do just fine, happier by most measures than the US. The more religious countries tend to have higher disparity between rich a...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:38 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: John Gee and the GAEL
- Replies: 19
- Views: 5879
Re: John Gee and the GAEL
Back in my day the tooth fairy only seemed to carry nickels...I have lost motivation to engage in the BoA and John Gee discussions. Now that I know what I know, it seems like arguing whether the tooth fairy is able to carry only coins or if it can also carry folding money.
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:30 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The 2020 numbers
- Replies: 35
- Views: 11952
Re: The 2020 numbers
I'd like to see those converts.Based on these numbers, the average full time missionary baptized less than 2 and a half converts in the year.
Along similar lines, I understand that the average US adult is 5' 7" tall, has 1 3/4 children and is a hermaphrodite...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:25 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: RFM's bombshells
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3980
Re: RFM's bombshells
That gold's still slippery, I understand.2bizE wrote:Apparently, the Spanish treasure is still in that hill as there is no record of Joseph finding it...and as truly as the gold plates are real gold the Spanish treasure must exist.
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:22 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Bundy and the Mormon Holy War
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4588
Re: Bundy and the Mormon Holy War
a) Ammon and his father should both be in jail. You shouldn't get to initiate an armed takeover of a federally owned building and walk free. Agreed. Per my understanding, it was pure prosecutorial incompetence that led to their getting off the hook. For good or ill, the assumption of innocence and ...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:13 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Church updates handbook.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 7188
Re: Church updates handbook.
My most salient memory of a church member obsessed with survival, in this life and the next, was an older neighbor who stored a gun with his two-year's food supply. One time he told me (exact words IIRC): "Young man, I'm going to the Celestial Kingdom, and I don't care who I have to step on to get t...
- Tue May 05, 2020 9:01 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Culture of Fake Friends
- Replies: 22
- Views: 13699
Re: Culture of Fake Friends
And that, my friends, is one thing Mormonism has taught us - other people are a means to an end. You don't serve people because you love them, you serve them because you are supposed to and God wants you to and you'd better if you want to make it to the tippity top of the Celestial Kingdom. Looking...