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by dogbite
Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s wrong with the cross?
Replies: 20
Views: 1959

Re: What’s wrong with the cross?

They sometimes speak of the empty cross as symbolic of Jesus victory over death. That makes more sense for the empty tomb IMHO. The empty cross would still be for a dead jesus it seems. Most of the home crucifixes I saw in Germany displayed a tortured suffering Christ on the cross. In Neal Stephenso...
by dogbite
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 4243

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

My mission messed with my head. Even though my sister said on my return it wasn't like I had gone at all. It didn't change me. I certainly didn't and don't value the religious study and practice habits she adopted on her mission. But even then I had nightmares for years about being on a mission or f...
by dogbite
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 2017

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

In their imagination
by dogbite
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs
Replies: 8
Views: 1115

Re: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs

The church's declaration that god is the same through time and the Gospel doesn't change traps them. They have to retcon the scriptures and modern era prophet declarations to make them look superficially consistent. Any mid depth or deeper analysis reveals the holes in the story and the crazy apolog...
by dogbite
Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Outer Darkness
Replies: 3
Views: 637

Re: Outer Darkness

You have to establish unambiguous right v wrong. Humanity hasn't achieved that yet. Objective morality doesn't exist so far as I can tell.
by dogbite
Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Demythologizing Mormonism
Replies: 12
Views: 1624

Re: Demythologizing Mormonism

This is a path that lets members reject any belief they choose leading to universal cafeteria mormonism.

It is at its core a rejection of Divine Command Theory which is simultaneously the only claim to "Truth" the church has. They are rejecting their own authority to make authoritative claims.
by dogbite
Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Help declining a sacrament meeting talk
Replies: 26
Views: 11276

Re: Help declining a sacrament meeting talk

IMHO it's a mistake to say more than no. Any explanation or excuse you offer is just something for the mormon to overcome. If you offer nothing, they have nothing to comeback with. We want to justify it, but it's a mistake.
by dogbite
Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you stay sane and grounded?
Replies: 12
Views: 1664

Re: How do you stay sane and grounded?

Detaching from Mormonism. The saying 'not my Circus not my monkeys' is the idea here. You don't have to own the problems of Mormonism, they're not yours. You don't have to fix them. Indeed you don't want to fix them. They belong to somebody else. If they ask you for your opinion then you can offer s...
by dogbite
Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Advice on parenting college-age student and drinking
Replies: 8
Views: 1131

Re: Advice on parenting college-age student and drinking

We could play dueling links, but just for contrast, Brain damage https://www.forbes.com/sites/elvaramirez/2021/06/01/study-no-amount-of-drinking-alcohol-is-safe-for-brain-health/?sh=7c93142e7eaa cancer risks override other claimed benefits https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/just-in-time-for-the-...
by dogbite
Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Advice on parenting college-age student and drinking
Replies: 8
Views: 1131

Re: Advice on parenting college-age student and drinking

Generally alcohol tastes bad. People pursue it for other reasons related to it's psychological and physical reactions. It might just be individuation and exploring. If it's the euphoria, relaxation effects, then some form of meditation might be something they would find meaningful in addition to the...
by dogbite
Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: God: A Human History by Reza Aslan
Replies: 10
Views: 1437

Re: God: A Human History by Reza Aslan

The bible unearthed is starting to show some age I think. It's very documentary hypothesis based and the archaeology results havent been as supportive of that view since publication. The Elohist claims have been particularly challenged. If you're brand new to the topic, it's a fine starting point. E...
by dogbite
Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation Poll
Replies: 29
Views: 6599

Re: Resignation Poll

I plan to resign when my dad dies.
by dogbite
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: God: A Human History by Reza Aslan
Replies: 10
Views: 1437

Re: God: A Human History by Reza Aslan

It's not intended as historic fiction, but it might as well be, imo. Aslan is simple and approachable, but not really scholarly. Again, my opinion. Books on this topic I would recommend. The History of God by Karen Armstrong. She too has a belief of sorts she is directing the reader towards, but wit...
by dogbite
Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: God: A Human History by Reza Aslan
Replies: 10
Views: 1437

Re: God: A Human History by Reza Aslan

I didn't like Zealot. It struck me as sloppy scholarship that was written to justify to himself why he left Islam, became a Christian and then reverted to Islam.
by dogbite
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Naïve Realism
Replies: 4
Views: 883

Re: Naïve Realism

No one can see what you have seen. You never saw it either. You do not directly apprehend anything. All your sensory input is converted to nerve impulses that the brain translates and then constructs a model we use to navigate through whatever the real world may be. Smell might be the closest thing ...
by dogbite
Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Kevin Pearson
Replies: 9
Views: 2443

Re: Elder Kevin Pearson

"The thinking has been done" lives on.
by dogbite
Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:34 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1002
Views: 3505278

Re: Keeping up with Trump

There may be a few violent responses down the line. I expect they'll be small, short and fail terribly for the perpetrators and supporters.
by dogbite
Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:04 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Cannabis. What is my problem?
Replies: 9
Views: 1812

Re: Cannabis. What is my problem?

I have no interest in it nor alcohol.
by dogbite
Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Am I understanding this correctly?
Replies: 1
Views: 558

Re: Am I understanding this correctly?

You're forgetting that this, like all church instructions, are for a one way street where all benefits flow towards the interests of the church. If you're ever confused about the direction, check the flow of benefits and you'll know how the church wants you to proceed.
by dogbite
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Convinced the Q15 know the truth
Replies: 15
Views: 2266

Re: Convinced the Q15 know the truth

FOAF

Friend of a Friend. Classic sign of an urban legend.

Now yes, I think the q15 knows. But it is only my opinion.