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by græy
Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sat Afternoon Spring 2023!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 3561

Re: NOMference Sat Afternoon Spring 2023!!!

MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:14 pm
+2 for accent
I like how he says apperience rather than appearance. +5
by græy
Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday Morning Spring 2023!!
Replies: 123
Views: 4930

Re: NOMference Saturday Morning Spring 2023!!

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote:
Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:49 am
"More are saying they are ministering than those that are being ministered to". No shit Sherlock, because your culture encourages lying.

-lost
My thought too. This is a well known circumstance and the reasons behind it are very well understood.
by græy
Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday Morning Spring 2023!!
Replies: 123
Views: 4930

Re: NOMference Saturday Morning Spring 2023!!

I'm technically watching conference, but also simultaneously holding 2 separate text conversations with members whose lives are falling apart this morning and "need the bishop's advice" :roll: (Just for reference, these two individuals are ALWAYS in self-made crisis mode.) Do I still get conference ...
by græy
Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Steven Hassan interview on MS
Replies: 6
Views: 633

Re: Steven Hassan interview on MS

At one point Steve and John are discussing the time it takes to reprogram and heal. Steve thinks it can be done quickly while John says it needs to take a few years. It's also worth noting that John was in his duck for 45+ years, while Steve was only a member of his duck flock for 2.5 years. Steve ...
by græy
Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Replies: 21
Views: 2101

Re: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.

Carolyn Pearson’s book “The Ghost of Polygamy” really put it in perspective for me. Sister Ryder ordered her book (with a quick note and signature as well) that was extremely effective at detailing the heartbreak of polygamy even in a the modern church. A true ghost that haunts every woman. Highly ...
by græy
Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Replies: 21
Views: 2101

Re: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.

When Mrs. Græy says "polygamy doesn't bother her" does that include sharing you with multiple other women in Super VIP Heaven in the MORmON afterlife? (Inquiring minds and all...) Great question. Based on conversations I'd expect she would not be okay with polygamy being part of our future. I think...
by græy
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealing rules?
Replies: 26
Views: 1919

Re: Sealing rules?

I believe that Palerider is correct here.
Red Ryder wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:02 am
It answers the question but creates more.

That means that polygamy is still a part of the doctrine despite the efforts to distance. Makes sense considering D&C 132 is still around.
Yup.
by græy
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Replies: 21
Views: 2101

Re: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.

There have been some interesting developments with my wife regarding a polygamous family in our ward. :shock: No, no! Its not what you think. But it has led to some interesting conversations and an admission on her part the she no longer knows where she's at in her belief, nuance, or acceptance of ...
by græy
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Replies: 21
Views: 2101

Re: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.

Bishop Graey we need to discuss your inactivity at NOM. Ha! I know. I have missed this group and hope to do better in the future. You all are the best of the best! I highly recommend you and your wife listen to the At Last She Said it Podcast. It’s soft and gentle, yet hard hitting and honest expre...
by græy
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Youth activities
Replies: 13
Views: 1437

Re: Youth activities

We have a small ward, on the best nights we get 12-15 YM, and 7 or 8 YW. Many nights we get half that. For the YM we hold planning meetings every 6 months and basically just ask the YM what they want to do and then try to make that happen. Our activities have included... * bowling * playing dodge ba...
by græy
Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Order Spirituality
Replies: 13
Views: 1234

Re: New Order Spirituality

I haven't yet found anything convincingly supernatural or divine post mormonism. I'm fine with the universe just being what it appears to be. There's plenty of interesting and wonderful things to explore and morality exists outside of religion. I feel this. I have told trusted friends that I'm lean...
by græy
Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!
Replies: 21
Views: 2151

Re: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!

Next month, I get to show my true colors to family and extended family for the first time by NOT attending a sealing of niece. Very apprehensive about this and hope to survive and come out better for it. The church is setup in such a crazy way like this, either 100% in with temple recommend or OUT....
by græy
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Replies: 21
Views: 2101

22 Months Down. 38 To Go.

Hey NOM friends! Long time no see. I hope you are all doing well! I apologize for being gone for so long, it has been a crazy 8 or 9 months. Not so much in the church thing, though that is still plodding along. We started a home renovation project which quickly turned into an 8 month nightmare which...
by græy
Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Silly new apologetics site - Show Your Shelf
Replies: 6
Views: 982

Re: Silly new apologetics site - Show Your Shelf

I like #212:

"Why would Joseph Smith say that Moroni waved the “rent” of his garment?"

Obviously Moroni decided not to charge people for borrowing/wearing his garments. He lent them out free of charge.
by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!
Replies: 77
Views: 4929

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!

blazerb wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:14 pm
I cannot believe anyone can laugh after that story.
That felt odd to me too. Nothing funny here...

-10 for the audience/congregation
by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!
Replies: 77
Views: 4929

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!

MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:04 pm
græy wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:03 pm
I feel asleep before the afternoon session and DW let me sleep through the first hour. It's a Sabbath miracle!!

What'd I miss?
Honestly...nothing
Not quite true. I have missed you MoPag. How are you?
by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!
Replies: 77
Views: 4929

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!

I feel asleep before the afternoon session and DW let me sleep through the first hour. It's a Sabbath miracle!!

What'd I miss?
by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag
Replies: 89
Views: 8168

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag

"Being in the church, praying, paying tithing, and making covenants will make life easier. Not really easier. In fact it will seem harder. But you'll have help so it's easier. You just won't be able to see, feel, or detect that help in any way and it will feel harder but really it's easier. Trust me!"
by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag
Replies: 89
Views: 8168

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag

MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:32 am
This is the worst sales pitch ever!
Agreed. This is lame and extremely self-contradictory
by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag
Replies: 89
Views: 8168

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag

-50 for Nelson. I won't leave because the church asks too much. I'll leave because it isn't true, doesn't tell the truth, promotes other-ing, and doesn't deliver on its promises.

If it was what it claimed, I'd happily do what it asks.