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by jfro18
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15182

Re: Supporting our own

Jfro, I love your Mormon stories episodes!!! I used to read your posts on NOM in Charlie Kelly's voice in my head. But now that I know what your real voice sounds like I read your posts in your voice. :lol: Thanks for all the hard work you've put into those episodes. They've helped me see things I ...
by jfro18
Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15182

Re: Supporting our own

Jfro18, I have really liked your work on Mormon stories. What is the best way to support you? Donate to Mormon stories or elsewhere? So I'm not making any $$ for these (I know John pays regulars but I want to make sure no one can ever say I'm doing this for the money) which is probably a really dum...
by jfro18
Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: You're only happy because Satan won
Replies: 13
Views: 1198

Re: You're only happy because Satan won

The biggest realization to me is how much more powerful "Satan" is than "God." If I had someone trying to lure my kid away with weird tactics i'd put a stop to it, yet God is like "yeah that child is gonna pay for eternity because he didn't believe my prophets who were clearly wrong all the time." W...
by jfro18
Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Brighamite God.
Replies: 6
Views: 859

Re: The Brighamite God.

I agree with all of this so much - the version of God in Mormonism is just so different than the God that is portrayed at General Conference and reading Joseph Smith's claimed revelations from this version of God is such a giant red flag that either Joseph Smith made it up with the Mormon God kind o...
by jfro18
Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: THAT's why it changed from "teaching" to "ministering!"
Replies: 7
Views: 938

Re: THAT's why it changed from "teaching" to "ministering!"

Wow... that's really stunning and makes perfect sense. Revelation seems to come from social and legal issues in these latter days, doesn't it?
by jfro18
Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What to Say to Son
Replies: 26
Views: 2936

Re: What to Say to Son

I don't quite know what to add here because ultimately you'll know the best way to talk to your son with an approach that works for your family. Ultimately some people will respond to discussions about confirmation bias and all that, but you also have to make sure your wife is OK with you going into...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15182

Re: Supporting our own

Which is a real challenge, because just learning those things on your own sorta makes you feel that way, regardless of who it's coming from. That's why so many people dip a toe in and then run away because they think they feel "Satan" (aka Captain CogDis, aka your own critical faculty) mocking them...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where is the Primitive Christianity?
Replies: 4
Views: 592

Re: Where is the Primitive Christianity?

We are also taught that the BoM contains the fullness of the gospel. But it contains nothing that is uniquely Mormon, right? Doesn't that mean someone who is living the fullness of the gospel can ignore anything restored by Joseph Smith, or taught by his successors? If the BoM contains the fullness...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15182

Re: Supporting our own

Just wanted to pass along a happy message. Syster Ryder has been listening to your podcast series. She’s 5 episodes in and said she enjoys the “just the facts” tone. No anger or biased side taking. Just presenting the information in a good solid information sharing tone. That's the best compliment ...
by jfro18
Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Should I tell her ?
Replies: 12
Views: 1141

Re: Should I tell her ?

My personal experience is that going to someone with a deeply held belief and saying "I've found out this belief is not true and here is why" never ends well at least in the short/middle term. So I don't have any real advice here beyond saying that I'd follow Linked's advice and just maybe talk to h...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15182

Re: Supporting our own

Hagoth wrote:
Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:17 pm
moksha wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:50 pm
An Introduction to Mormon Polygamy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqp9bdHd3io&t=484s
Jfro is killing it! The first polygamy episode is great. I am really looking forward to what's to come.
I get progressively angrier with each polygamy episode if that helps. :lol:
by jfro18
Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Silly new apologetics site - Show Your Shelf
Replies: 6
Views: 955

Re: Silly new apologetics site - Show Your Shelf

This is so over the top - like I get that their goal is to be faith promoting but the questions are just absurd.

How could anyone read the questions they list and believe they came from someone with doubts?
by jfro18
Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best evidence that Joseph Smith was just making it all up
Replies: 15
Views: 1943

Re: Best evidence that Joseph Smith was just making it all up

That's a great insight Hagoth. Mormon (Joseph) claiming that "there is way more of Jesus' teachings but you just have to trust me" is doing the same work as "I had an experience too sacred to share" in a testimony. And that's a great insight as well Linked. There are a few "best evidences" to me bu...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best evidence that Joseph Smith was just making it all up
Replies: 15
Views: 1943

Re: Best evidence that Joseph Smith was just making it all up

Yep - and that they had time to write down the Sermon on the Mount into the BoM as the Sermon at the Temple with the most superficial and obvious changes...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Apostle complaint
Replies: 5
Views: 676

Re: Apostle complaint

Thats it. And it apparently shows up in one of the newspapers of the day, but the source is likewise not entirely credible. I'm glad that we have a thread where this gets pointed out because I didn't know the source was questionable and I love that this group is thinking about getting things right ...
by jfro18
Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!
Replies: 77
Views: 4754

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!

I'm so glad we spent most of the day out picking apples and at a pumpkin farm, but thankful to all of you doing the play by play.

Love that Nelson keeps telling members not to associate with non-believers - oh so helpful.
by jfro18
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?
Replies: 7
Views: 1101

Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?

It seems like in the weeks leading up to GenCon every six months there are all sorts of rumors coming out, but either I'm out of the loop or there has just been nothing this time around. I tend to have this belief that Nelson was pushing through everything he wanted to do quickly to cement his legac...
by jfro18
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 2736

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I think everyone is to some degree and I've definitely realized it more and more as I've separated from it because it did shape so many aspects of our lives. The areas that people feel it definitely differ and of course the situation you are in will amplify certain aspects - I say that thinking of b...
by jfro18
Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What did Jesus have to say about...
Replies: 9
Views: 1288

Re: What did Jesus have to say about...

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own live also, he cannot be my disciple." This is truly stunning given that members of the church will often call themselves disciples of Christ. ETA: What is the apologetic ...
by jfro18
Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith and the curse of the flaming sword
Replies: 18
Views: 2399

Re: Joseph Smith and the curse of the flaming sword

The overwhelmingly obvious weakness to this story, of course, is that the angel never appeared to the girls themselves. It' has the same legitimacy as a guy walking up to you in the street and saying, "the police said you have to give me all of your money or they will send me to the electric chair....