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They love control in SLC, even to their own detriment.

Good to hear from you, sorry to hear about your dads health. Peter Bleakly is saying that in the UK the activity rate is at about 15%. Do you have anything to show what the activity rate is in the Netherlands? My assumption is that it's worse than the UK, which had a stronghold at one time, but I do...

On one hand, I give any highly visible organization credit for quickly reversing a mistake. It takes guts. (cue Randy Travis music ...) But on the other hand, they insist on invoking God Almighty. Let's be serious - these aren't serious theologians. To imply God actually had a hand in meeting schedu...

My aunt & uncle finished their 2nd mission to Martin's Cove in 2020, which was cut short because of Covid, so it's still happening. Funny story: DW and I were Ma/Pa twice (because I wasn't smart enough to learn better after one time). Before the second one the neighboring Stake leaders gave us tips ...

I saw some of your comments over there Yobispo. Exmormons eventually grow up to become former Mormons. That’s why the big fuss around the planet thing. Exmo’s like to point and say “see! They’re dishonest look at that ______!” Former Mormons could care less what the church is doing. They’ve moved o...

I agree on all points, especially how the exmo world blew up over the last week. It's probably the only time I've predicted something correctly, that the essay would be back up and this time the people on the church's side are sitting back and getting a good chuckle watching exmos make something out...

There is some strong wishful thinking in that lineup. They're all at least in the middle, but more on the fundy side of middle. The Silver Fox's "doubts your doubts" and "unruly children" comments far outweigh his barely-almost-apology. The top 2 are literal fundamentalists, and I'd throw in Ballard...

The WoW recommends drinking beer. Says nothing about drinking Diet Coke. The WoW was my first big rabbit hole issue, and when I finally allowed myself to think about it I was surprised to find out that it does actually recommend beer. It also says to use wine for the sacrament. TSCC's ability to si...

This is the first real indication of the state of active members globally. https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-05-13/church-area-utah-area-blesses-benefits-global-church-213172 Someone on ldschurchgrowth said 1 million members in Utah are active, the other million are inactive a...

Glad you posted this. DW and I pulled them up (maybe YouTube?) about 2 years ago while on a raod trip. We both had listened to them many times, especially in the mission field. I heard the talks with new ears, but I could still hear it with my old ears, too, and I found myself feeling a fondness for...

I'd like to direct my comment to the young men on the board... sorry, couldn't help it.

My takeaway is that I've already heard 2 TBMs share this news in a positive, excited voice. Mormons: the only people who are happy to get less of what they love.

My barely relevant Givens/Fluhman story --- I attended one of those private firesides in the Bay Area back in 2014-2015 where the Givens spoke with Spencer Fluhman, the current Exec Director of the Maxwell Institute. Most of Fiona's talk was about finding Mother in Heaven in literature and the scrip...

This one is particularly baffling. She doesn't bash the church. She doesn't encourage people to leave. Her local leaders haven't tried to engage with her before pushing for a court (I don't care what they call it). Her local leaders aren't local. Church discipline is supposed to originate locally, b...

Well, if I know the church, and I do know the church, I know that these numbers are fudged in some way. The real question is: how fudged are they? My personal experience is that I know of far more resignations in my social circle this year than any other year since my disaffection in 2012. Covid to...

At some point one of these suits will stick. If it was anything other than religion, the fraudulent company in question would be settling suits, going out of business or hopefully changing their ways. But for some reason in this country you can lie and steal in the name of freedom of religion. Bear ...

Word on the street is the Pear of Great Price is getting a make-over. New headings above chapters, and possibly adding the family proclamation as "scripture". Complete word of mouth speculations. Really hope they do not completely entrench themselves against the LGBTQ community by canonizing the fa...

2 things they won't mention at all:
1. The essays
2. Mark Hofmann

I generally think that most Mormons will consider this movie to be spiritual pornography. As interesting as it might be, there's virtually no way for believers to have a good feeling about this even if the actual bomber was caught and put in prison for life. "spiritual pornography" - I hate that te...

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Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:45 pm

I have lost motivation to engage in the BoA and John Gee discussions. Now that I know what I know, it seems like arguing whether the tooth fairy is able to carry only coins or if it can also carry folding money.

Bills only, of course. Duh.

Yes, I'm glad that they are setting the example. Yes, as 70+ year old folks they need the protection more than a younger person. Yes, the anti-vaxx folks need a smack in the head from Dear Leader. But I can't help this nagging little irritation that they got it first. With all of their resources, in...