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Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: On Coffee and Silence
Replies: 16
Views: 12967

Re: On Coffee and Silence

I live in a mini-Utah. During the Manhattan project a lot of Mormons moved up here to work at the reactors. These same people stuck around during the cold war and a thriving LDS community has built up in our area. Any area outside of the Tri-Cities area in Washington you get much lower populations o...
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Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why don't most LDS like Grace?
Replies: 29
Views: 17017

Re: Why don't most LDS like Grace?

[funny story] I emphasized grace in gospel doctrine and a member said, "What you are saying makes no sense. If I work an entire day and you work a half a day, God wouldn't pay us the same". I offended him in my response: I thought he was joking and I laughed. In that same lesson, we covered the para...
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Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: On Coffee and Silence
Replies: 16
Views: 12967

On Coffee and Silence

Yesterday I attended an annual breakfast for Independence Day. It is put on by my mother's ward who is very welcoming and loving towards me, despite my resignation of membership. These are families I grew up with, and while many other wards in the stake are weary of me, this ward is not. I go to two...
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Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polytheism
Replies: 10
Views: 5821

Re: Polytheism

I guess this is where mental gymnastics begin
Absolutely.
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel on IOT - Discussion could benefit from Folwer Faith Stages
Replies: 32
Views: 23593

Re: Bill Reel on IOT - Discussion could benefit from Folwer Faith Stages

The episode could have been an hour shorter. I agree with Matt, get out. Don't stay and try to change, get out. However, the viewpoint is too simplistic if the consequence of leaving is too high. There are many on this board who remain because the alternative is divorce. I've been there. The day my ...
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polytheism
Replies: 10
Views: 5821

Re: Polytheism

Most of Christianity (Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglicans, and some Lutherans) do have a form of elevated status for those to look to for a more personal touch in their religion. While some forms of Christianity (Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy) do practice veneration (bowing a cro...
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple Prayer Roles
Replies: 17
Views: 10750

Re: Temple Prayer Roles

"Discretion and respect for temple ordinances prevents me from mentioning what occurs in a prayer circle, but in my opinion, it would not look out of place in other Christian gatherings" I also found this quote interesting. The prayer circle would be quite out of place in most Christian gatherings....
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Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: kindness
Replies: 4
Views: 2494

Re: kindness

When we left the church, it was difficult because of so many kind people that surrounded us in Mormonism. Our home teacher in particular was never a traditional home teacher. He genuinely loved and served his families even though he never showed up a single month to teach a lesson. He was there to s...
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Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Rasband sucks up to President Eyring on Facebook
Replies: 18
Views: 12076

Re: Elder Rasband sucks up to President Eyring on Facebook

You don't understand. To them, the talk of how awesome the leaders are, how amazing temples are, why tithing is important, why the WoW is critical, etc. are all, to them the very same thing as talking about Jesus. I know you wrote [/sarcasm] at the end (and with the entirety of the statement it wou...
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mom Is Improving Dramatically
Replies: 47
Views: 17854

Re: Hepatic Encephalopathy

I'm ignorant when it comes to medical things, but my heart is with you and your mother.
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dale, tell me again about your suffering
Replies: 19
Views: 10048

Re: Dale, tell me again about your suffering

My thoughts on the OP: I know a few people who have been persecuted for their religious beliefs: my mother had her clothes ripped off in public when leaving an LDS meeting house in the 1970s so they could see her Mormon underwear (she wasn't endowed yet), my priest received death threats for standi...
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: It is better for one man to perish......
Replies: 7
Views: 3913

Re: It is better for one man to perish......

LDS interpretation of scripture is one of linking no matter how weak the link may be. Linking the words in a late-D&C scripture to a 3,500 year old document from an ancient civilization with nothing in common with 19th century US culture is completely valid. Most of the local LDS scripture gurus wer...
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "By their ________ shall ye know them"
Replies: 32
Views: 19613

Re: "By their ________ shall ye know them"

By their 4-6 children under 10-years-old shall ye know them. Not anymore, in my community I see more non-LDS people than LDS people. I wonder if the millennials are creating a mini-baby-boom right now. Everyone has a bunch of kids in tow. "By their frizzy hair shall ye know them" (Idaho Mormon wome...
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Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Thought this was funny
Replies: 2
Views: 1491

Re: Thought this was funny

I thought it was funny, too. It reminded me much of the old bash.org.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Girls camp theme: you will have to guess.
Replies: 29
Views: 24042

Re: Girls camp theme: you will have to guess.

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:01 pm
Satan rules the water!
You win the Internet! Audible laugh that called over my TBM coworker who also laughed hard at it.
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Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why don't Hernia/Prostate/Pelvic/Breast exams break the Law of Chastity?
Replies: 12
Views: 9500

Re: Why don't Hernia/Prostate/Pelvic/Breast exams break the Law of Chastity?

Mormons generally do accept that doing things under the advice of a medical professional is OK. However, this is not always true when it comes to some things: - I have a single LDS friend with a twisted tube in his plumbing. It infects very easily and his doctor has told him repeatedly that he needs...
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Resolving the conflict between rationalism and spirituality
Replies: 16
Views: 7630

Re: Resolving the conflict between rationalism and spirituality

Me too! And I have to give some thanks to Stanley Kubrick for that.
And Wendy Carlos. :D
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:05 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Prosperity Gospel
Replies: 15
Views: 6848

Re: Prosperity Gospel

When I was in college I got into Max Weber's writings. One in particular fascinated me, "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism". In there, he talks at length about the development of modern capitalism naturally growing out of the Protestant work ethic, where labor and work is seen as a s...
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What if you wanted to attend another church ??
Replies: 12
Views: 5020

Re: What if you wanted to attend another church ??

I worked for other churches for a number of years while still LDS. The last couple of years before we exited I was mentally out but still attended to help my spouse. My then-wife was quite afraid of those churches and I finally told her, "Why don't you just come to one of their services? You'll see ...
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Resolving the conflict between rationalism and spirituality
Replies: 16
Views: 7630

Re: Resolving the conflict between rationalism and spirituality

I'm putting this in a separate post because I feel it is a completely different thought. I see the resolution of conflict between rationalism and spirituality exemplified in improvised music. Music is a highly rational discipline. Rules of harmony have been developed over centuries and actually have...