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by Arcturus
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Advice Needed for Family Turmoil
Replies: 14
Views: 9949

Re: Advice Needed for Family Turmoil

It is easy for those of us sitting on the sidelines of her life to insist she should be okay being married to a non-believer, but as much as it sucks to voice this thought, if she's never going to be happy unless she's married to a believer it isn't fair to expect her to commit to a life of unhappi...
by Arcturus
Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Cook to Take on Church History Questions!
Replies: 76
Views: 41304

Re: Elder Cook to Take on Church History Questions!

You have to sign into your LDS account to ask questions - how is it some of them are from “Anonymous Users”? Is there an “anonymous” option once you sign in? You can register for an account as a "friend." Not sure if you'll be able to ask a question on that page w/o a membership # tied to the accou...
by Arcturus
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Sound of my shelf breaking
Replies: 30
Views: 19054

Re: The Sound of my shelf breaking

“When you go to the devil’s side and start getting information on blogs...and neglect the scriptures... you’re going to lose your membership in the kingdom of god.” Ballard What a steaming pile of s*** (the statement, that is). I generally like to give the brethren the benefit of the doubt because I...
by Arcturus
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Just popping in, again.
Replies: 15
Views: 7709

Re: Just popping in, again.

After a few weeks, I wondered what the point was in me being there? It was ruining Sat. Sun. and Mon. for the whole family as I would dread it on Sat, it would make me mad to hear stuff I didn't like on Sunday, and I would still be at a simmer on Monday. Same experience! And it's great being on the...
by Arcturus
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Who is next in line after Bill Reel?
Replies: 21
Views: 11434

Re: Who is next in line after Bill Reel?

Highly doubt Dan Reynolds. Public scrutiny would be too high, and it appears that the COB is approaching PR very seriously these days.

What was the tipping point, do you think, for Bill? Calling Jeff Holland a liar?
by Arcturus
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mixed Faith article on LDS.org landing page
Replies: 31
Views: 18239

Re: Mixed Faith article on LDS.org landing page

I reached out to Chelsea months ago when I was navigating my faith crisis, and she was extremely kind, open, and gave me great recommendations on managing the issue with my DW. At the time I was likely on the same ground as her husband, and my DW was in her faith camp. Glad the church published this...
by Arcturus
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I didn't listen to General Conference,...but was BoM testified of?
Replies: 6
Views: 4098

Re: I didn't listen to General Conference,...but was BoM testified of?

Nothing opens the heavens quite like the combination of increased purity, exact obedience, earnest seeking, daily feasting on the words of Christ in the Book of Mormon, and regular time committed to temple and family history work. "Exact obedience." This idea is certain to induce shame and anxiety ...
by Arcturus
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel Gets Ultimatum from Stake President
Replies: 67
Views: 41639

Re: Bill Reel Gets Ultimatum from Stake President

Didn’t Dehlin or was it Jeremy Runnells that had to sign something stating they wouldn’t record? If I recall they were told to sign or else they would proceed in their absence. Putting integrity aside, what would happen if Bill signed such statement but went ahead and recorded it anyway? Could the ...
by Arcturus
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A Theory of Revelations (Stark [1999])
Replies: 8
Views: 3792

Re: A Theory of Revelations (Stark [1999])

I feel like I am required to be enthusiastic for the divine genius of minor organization changes like ministering teaching and combining the priesthood quorums. It's like being excited for a small child that scribbles a stick figure version of their family for you. "Yes, dear child, we are so proud...
by Arcturus
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A Theory of Revelations (Stark [1999])
Replies: 8
Views: 3792

Re: A Theory of Revelations (Stark [1999])

I found this piece because I was looking for information on "revelation" and "hallucination," motivated by what Hassan told Dehlin in the interview about cults. If anyone has any respectable sources on the extent to which spiritual revelation might often be hallucination I'd love to see it. The 12 p...
by Arcturus
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A Theory of Revelations (Stark [1999])
Replies: 8
Views: 3792

A Theory of Revelations (Stark [1999])

Just read an interesting academic piece by Rodney Stark. He presents a normative outline of how otherwise sane/rational individuals receive what they presume to be revelation. I know this may be offensive to some here, but I agree with many of the points he makes. While I believe I've had a at least...
by Arcturus
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Origins of Mormon Doctrine
Replies: 23
Views: 23889

Re: Origins of Mormon Doctrine

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:54 pm
I get it from a rock in a hat.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
by Arcturus
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Origins of Mormon Doctrine
Replies: 23
Views: 23889

Re: Origins of Mormon Doctrine

It has become increasingly evident that Joseph Smith borrowed a lot of "original" Mormon doctrine from other sources. Examples include Josephus, Jasher, Thomas Dick’s Philosophy of a Future State , Thomas Taylor’s The Six Books of Proclus on the Theology of Plato , Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary, G...
by Arcturus
Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Origins of Mormon Doctrine
Replies: 23
Views: 23889

Re: Origins of Mormon Doctrine

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:46 am

Is all of this just coincidental?
Fascinating Hagoth. Thank you for sharing. What is equally mysterious to me is how the heck you come across this stuff... :lol:

But seriously, these are gems of information that you just don't stumble upon. Do you read a lot of this stuff in your free time?
by Arcturus
Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Priesthood Restoration timeline - Official church narrative vs Historical timeline
Replies: 41
Views: 21153

Re: Priesthood Restoration timeline - Official church narrative vs Historical timeline

jfro18 wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 10:25 am
Thanks all - I'm going to try and get this formatted much cleaner this week and maybe see if I can get it tossed up on a website or something so it can look a lot nicer/more organized.
jfro18 - did this ever go anywhere? Would love to see the product if you were able to get it done.
by Arcturus
Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: We Left
Replies: 9
Views: 4424

Re: We Left

Congratulations on the steps you've taken, I know well how hard those can be. If you don't mind sharing, how have the responses been so far? So far so good. My DW has sensed some awkwardness between her and some of her TBM friends who now know. I think we've handled it in a delicate enough way that...
by Arcturus
Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: We Left
Replies: 9
Views: 4424

Re: We Left

The Letter: Hope this email finds everyone well, although admittedly, I know you may not find yourselves feeling well after further reading. I’m sure most of you know at this point, so we felt it would be best to be open and let you all know where we are with the church. One of my colleagues is a de...
by Arcturus
Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: We Left
Replies: 9
Views: 4424

We Left

I posted a little rant on this Support thread a while ago. Thank you to everyone who gave me advice. My wife and I decided to take a break from the church about a month ago - letting leadership know (released from callings, etc.) and now telling close friends and family. It was really hard to go thr...
by Arcturus
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Latest RFM Podcast Second Best in History?
Replies: 28
Views: 18036

Re: Latest RFM Podcast Second Best in History?

As Bill Reel is, John Dehlin once was. As John Dehlin is, Bill Reel may become. :lol: :lol: :lol: Great podcast episode Consiglieri! It would be entertaining to see any apologists' retorts. On another note, how are you doing with MormonCorp these days, if you don't mind sharing? I'm curious if the ...
by Arcturus
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: BoM forensic linguistics
Replies: 38
Views: 19410

Re: BoM forensic linguistics

Sidney Rigdon left fewer because he had all of his papers burned as a part of his will after death but some still remain. That in and of itself has always seemed suspicious to me. Palerider - do you have a cite for the claim of SR having much of his work destroyed? I'm really interested into lookin...