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by Palerider
Fri May 12, 2023 9:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 60 Minutes this week: LDS & SEC
Replies: 27
Views: 2828

Re: 60 Minutes this week: LDS & SEC

I just did a search and found this as well as an article from the SLC Trib.

https://www.saltlakemagazine.com/lds-ch ... 0-minutes/

I'm looking forward to watching this even though I'm not a big 60 Minutes fan.
by Palerider
Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 4021

Re: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?

The thing to ask is if there is any archeological evidence for the great wars that are fought in the BoM. It would be interesting to see how they get around that.
by Palerider
Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Godless
Replies: 2
Views: 513

Godless

Watching this fictional, dark themed Western on Netflix called "Godless". The main antagonist (deep sociopath) is a character who, as a young child, was part of the Fancher party that was massacred at Mountain Meadows. He was under 8 years of age and so spared of death but then raised by one Isaac H...
by Palerider
Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Technical difficulties and safety certificate
Replies: 9
Views: 966

Re: Technical difficulties and safety certificate

Glad to see NOM back. Thought maybe the quasi-cult had sabotaged the website.
by Palerider
Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 4021

Re: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?

Does anyone know if that "If god commanded it" exemption clause was in the original text of the BoM? Or was it something added as part of the "re-editing" the occurred over the JS years to update the book to his evolving theology? Just checked. Original text reads the same. https://bookofmormoncent...
by Palerider
Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 4021

Re: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?

It's interesting there's no polygamy in the BOM; like the other thread Red started about predator vs opportunist. I guess we really don't know when JS first started thinking about polygamy; I'm guessing at a pretty young age if the stories about his bible study are true, but he did not write it up ...
by Palerider
Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 4021

Re: Gratuitous violence in the BOM?

I'm of the opinion the story of Shiz and Coriantumr was inspired by the Legend of Sleepy Hollow and the headless horseman. It was written in 1820 and is considered one of America's first classic spooky/horror stories. Quite popular in the culture. Joseph probably observed the general public being no...
by Palerider
Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
Replies: 23
Views: 2496

Re: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?

I'm trying to remember the term used by the church for young men who have had multiple sex partners before their mission. If I recall, leadership drew a distinction between a young couple in love, who had "made a mistake" and a young man who had been "predatory" in his relationships with young women...
by Palerider
Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Historical details do not carry the saving power…
Replies: 16
Views: 1522

Re: Historical details do not carry the saving power…

The problem these idiots truly don't understand is that covenants and ordinances performed on earth by men, have no intrinsic saving power. In Christ's time the "ordinances" were burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. Mark 12:33 reads: "And to love him (God) with all the heart, and with all the unde...
by Palerider
Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Alcohol?
Replies: 23
Views: 3877

Re: Alcohol?

I tried alcohol a few times as a teen. Nothing good ever came from those few times.

My younger brother is alcoholic and I've had to watch what it did to his life. Not a fun movie.
by Palerider
Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?
Replies: 18
Views: 1324

Re: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?

My in-laws, who fancy themselves as dyed-in-the-wool TBMs but are in reality cafeteria Mormons in a big way, would do better to call it the "Convenient Path".
by Palerider
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?
Replies: 18
Views: 1324

Re: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:09 am
Palerider wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:12 am
I've always thought "Covenant Path" is nondescriptive.

The "Exploitation Treadmill" works better for me.
Covenant treadmill has a nice ring to it.
Even better!
by Palerider
Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?
Replies: 18
Views: 1324

Re: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?

I've always thought "Covenant Path" is nondescriptive.

The "Exploitation Treadmill" works better for me.
by Palerider
Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: So... my friend was just promoted to General Authority
Replies: 17
Views: 1484

Re: So... my friend was just promoted to General Authority

Does your friend have a white ceramic bowl and pitcher on display in their home? I haven't been inside his house since I learned about the sacred artifacts. He doesn't seem like the type to put them on display anyway. The ones I have seen (in use at the time) were a nice quality stainless steel. To...
by Palerider
Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Afternoon Spring 2023!!
Replies: 63
Views: 4409

Re: NOMference Sunday Afternoon Spring 2023!!

More temples...lots more temples.

They're like Walmarts now.

Mormonism: The Walmart version of salvation, only more expensive. Cheap religion at a high price.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's the point of Oaks sucking up?
Replies: 8
Views: 934

Re: What's the point of Oaks sucking up?

The idea of sucking up to leadership MUST be reinforced to inferiors so that when it's Oaks' turn, no one will dare give him grief. It's the "get in line" principle. "I did it....you do it." This is the way the church operates and avoids the huge messes created when members gave Joseph Smith crap on...
by Palerider
Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Spring 2023!!!
Replies: 100
Views: 5054

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Spring 2023!!!

She's really sucking up to Nelson.

Worshipping the arm of flesh.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Spring 2023!!!
Replies: 100
Views: 5054

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Spring 2023!!!

Be one.

By submitting totally to us. Then there will be no more contention. Just bow your head and say yes. See how easy that is?
by Palerider
Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Spring 2023!!!
Replies: 100
Views: 5054

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Spring 2023!!!

Wow!

What a misrepresentation of the issues regarding B.H. Robert's.
by Palerider
Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sat Afternoon Spring 2023!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 3568

Re: NOMference Sat Afternoon Spring 2023!!!

A bit of a snooze fest really... This seems like one of the most pointless sessions in years based on the reactions in the threads. Other than reinforcing the absolute need for Mormon ordinances in order to access God (which is such a fallacy) there was nothing here that couldn't be found from any ...