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Thanks everyone for your responses they were all helpful and insightful. Just a side note, awhile back when I asked my EQP that I didn't want to minister anymore that led to him inviting me to breakfast and I let him know that I no longer believed. Curiously, his wife this past Sunday spoke and sai...

Thanks everyone for your responses they were all helpful and insightful. Just a side note, awhile back when I asked my EQP that I didn't want to minister anymore that led to him inviting me to breakfast and I let him know that I no longer believed. Curiously, his wife this past Sunday spoke and said...

Being a non-believer in a community of believers creates a constant worry that something bad is going to happen. Maybe partially rooted in the teachings that people who lose their belief are going to hell. But there are also countless possible social consequences that can be dreamt up. It's like li...

I think your approach sounds great Linked! And an easy analogy is likening the church to santa claus except maybe not the best if you want your wife's viewpoint to have a chance. But yeah I think it's a good idea to let him know that you and your wife have different beliefs about the church and he p...

Just ask what people actually want and need, and then match them with others who are able and willing to deliver on that need. -lost That's a great idea lost! Sparky, I told my EQP that I was no longer interested in ministering. Unfortunately, that led to him having breakfast with me and me telling...

I don't know about you guys and gals, but lately I am feeling more like a fish out of water at church activities. I am sort of ignored especially by the bishop and eqp since they know my status (beliefs). Anyway, it sort of makes me not want to go. I have already stopped going to elder's quorum. I w...

I went to church on Sunday and only half the ward showed up I think because of Fall break--people were out of town. Anyway, I think it is becoming more of a thing for people to mention that they know of friends and relatives that have left the church. But I did notice this past Sunday that there wer...

I grew up in the church also in an orthodox home. And in a small Utah town with no other churches in it. They used to have a bust of Joseph Smith on the outside window of the museum with a blue light behind it. It gave me sort of a mystical feeling as a child. I also think that being ultra religious...

Being raised in an orthodox home and attending BYU I believe made me very picky. I dated a lot of girls but usually found a flaw that caused me to stop. And those who I thought were great weren't very interested in me. Finally when I was in my forties attending a mid singles ward I decided that I di...

I don't know about you guys but sometimes I wonder if I'm on the verge of a mental health crisis. It is challenging living in a mixed faith marriage right, but also being perhaps one of the few like us who are in the neighborhood or at church. Anyhow, I am just wondering what you guys do to stay san...

Not to turn things political, but it would be interesting to see if that racist is a Trump supporter. I think a lot of Mormons are Trump supporters probably because many are Republicans. But doesn't Trump have a history of being racist? And the Mormon church definitely has a history of being racist ...

Mine eyes have seen the stuff that the church has tried to hide.

It is rolling forth like a stone cut out of the mountain to fill the whole earth.

One day all the world will know what the church really is--a flipping cult.

Glory Glory halelujah, the truth is marching on.

I was hoping it would be a tithing declaration by text or email. But then they couldn't guilt us or indoctrinate us right

I would avoid any conversations on it or it usually just turns defensive where each hunkers into their corner. I would instead, double down on being a great spouse. Don't give them any reason to make you out as a poster child for their Beelzebub. Your being a better husband and father should not be...

Going forward I think the challenge will be to have her allow me to have some influence on the kid's beliefs. I think she would prefer to only teach the kids the faith promoting church approved stuff. She doesn't want them to learn about the other side of things in case they lose their faith and be...

What is interesting about that is that her grandfather became an alcoholic after ww2 because of ptsd. As a result his wife divorced him. He died at a young age and then after that she got sealed to him and never re-married.

I should clarify, this is my wife's grandfather.

Here’s a great podcast she can relate to. Take a listen first and determine if you think she will like it then find a way for her to listen. Show her you have empathy for her “extra responsibilities” and perhaps she can understand why Mormon women feel the way they do in your situation. At Last She...

My wife has been seeing a counselor for some anxiety. Recently she saw her and told her that one of her main sources of her anxiety was my faith crisis/transition. The counselor told her that she shouldn't be like Satan and not give me agency. In my mind I was like yes! She says that she feels like ...

Yes it does seem like if you have been born in the church, your family and the church sort of take away our agency. We are not free to explore things and develop our own opinion about things because we are in the church and we must always think about what is most important through the lens of the ch...

Here’s a great table of other comparisons. https://faenrandir.github.io/a_careful_examination/comparison-table-book-of-mormon-and-bible-verses-origins-project/ The really telling thing here is how many of these verses are lifted from the New Testament, but included in the BoM's timeframe BEFORE the...