I'm a little confused by the new moniker. Wouldn't "Scouts BSA" just stand for "Scouts, Boy Scouts of America"? If that's it, it doesn't make sense to me.
"Scouts of America" seems better.
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- Wed May 02, 2018 12:47 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Girls Allowed into Boy Scouts... Now the Church is Really Going to Dump Scouting
- Replies: 32
- Views: 20529
- Wed May 02, 2018 12:39 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Polygamy In Heaven
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17458
Re: Polygamy In Heaven
Now, if a 90 year old woman married a 50 year old man, that would be breaking barriers. If a 50 year old man married a 90 year old woman it would mean he's a gold digger. ;) Is that any different than aunt Wendy who married a much older man for status and wealth? Or Mrs trump who married a fat old ...
- Wed May 02, 2018 12:26 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Polygamy In Heaven
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17458
- Tue May 01, 2018 5:32 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6895
Re: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
Since a film was recommended, I'd like to throw Flight of the Phoenix into the mix. The first was made in 1965 with Jimmy Stewart. The second in 2004 with Dennis Quaid. Either is an excellent choice although I probably favor the first, being an old timer myself. The crux of the film is that once the...
- Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:20 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Sheri Dew byui devotional
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2909
Sheri Dew byui devotional
I don't usually watch these devotionals, but on occasion I do as a barometer as to what the current challenges are that the church is concerned with. Obviously from her talk, the church is still carrying on the fight with losing young members to doubt. Something I thought/hoped the church was past w...
- Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:40 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The transfiguration of Brigham Young - Do apologists have *any* ground to stand on?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11758
Re: The transfiguration of Brigham Young - Do apologists have *any* ground to stand on?
OK - you guys are summing up my thoughts too. I remember being taught the BY was the chosen successor and it was given through revelation to the people in Nauvoo, but I never really knew the details of the transfiguration story. There's no way I believe that the Book of Mormon is legit, but as much...
- Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:09 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Horses in the Book of Mormon
- Replies: 30
- Views: 16900
Re: Horses in the Book of Mormon
Just heard the new episodes of Mormon Stories with Dr Coe today and they were talking about this. Evidently someone has located mastodon bones in Florida. That’s the latest apologist argument for elephants. So if I'm understanding this correctly, when the BofM says "horse" it MEANS tapir or deer, r...
- Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:57 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Horses in the Book of Mormon
- Replies: 30
- Views: 16900
Re: Horses in the Book of Mormon
One other item.
I don't see why horses are the only issue that apologists sweat blood over. The big (literally) problem is elephants, right?
How do they explain those creatures away? Where is the animal that can compare in any way to an elephant?
I don't see why horses are the only issue that apologists sweat blood over. The big (literally) problem is elephants, right?
How do they explain those creatures away? Where is the animal that can compare in any way to an elephant?
- Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Horses in the Book of Mormon
- Replies: 30
- Views: 16900
Re: Horses in the Book of Mormon
As usual the article is heavily laden with my favorite mormon apologetc words: 1. It seeeems... 2. May or maybe 3. Apparently 4. Perhaps 5. Why couldn't it be that... Additionally, it's interesting how many assumptions are made about "Reformed Egyptian", a language that has never been seen or heard....
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:26 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Another Sexual Predator Mission President...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8604
Re: Another Sexual Predator Mission President...
And here's the part where it's not their (the GA's) fault: And trusted priesthood leaders play a key role in recommending “worthy and honorable” men to serve as Mormon mission presidents, he explained. Once these local leaders, who know them best, sign off, the nominees undergo “a searching intervi...
- Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:30 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A philosophical look at God
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5707
Re: A philosophical look at God
He gets it halfway right here: "...it has to be the case that one’s eternal standing is not dependent on either one’s ability to understand God or to elucidate either the character and or the nature of God." But then he adds the very unfortunate element of Mormon false doctrine; "gnosticism". This i...
- Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:19 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: NEW INFO ON REDACTED BYU POLICE REPORTS
- Replies: 27
- Views: 13380
Re: NEW INFO ON REDACTED BYU POLICE REPORTS
This isn't a problem. Dead prophets are easily thrown under the bus nowadays. One time thing. Monson probably didn't know details. May have been suffering from early onset Alzheimers and no one knew. Was making decisions as a man. Give Monson a break. Everyone makes minor mistakes. Nothing here to s...
- Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:17 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Teaching salvation by grace as an unbeliever
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2092
Re: Teaching salvation by grace as an unbeliever
If this wasn't so darned Protestant then the LDS church could embrace this model for the Grace of God, but it instantly precludes just about everything that Joseph Smith stood for. Joseph, being a product of his time.....do you think he could have been influenced by the principles of a free democra...
- Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:47 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Teaching salvation by grace as an unbeliever
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2092
Re: Teaching salvation by grace as an unbeliever
Regarding your "when clean" section in the Grace column: I know of very few, even in the church, who are willing to venture as far as explaining the meaning and order of Justification and Sanctification. But they aren't really that difficult to understand. When we accept Christ and receive a witness...
- Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Seer Stone takes dinosaur ride???
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9796
Re: Seer Stone takes dinosaur ride???
The dinosaur tale is not too much of a stretch if you believe all the other stretches of imagination from JS. Not only from Joseph but from today's apologists! I think this story represents so perfectly what TBMS are dealing/suffering with as far as mental gymnastics and psychological enslavement. ...
- Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:48 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Origin of Kolob
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4753
Re: Origin of Kolob
Interesting reading here Hagoth. I'm going to do some more.
One thing though, the correct spelling is "Seixas". You can get some weird stuff looking up "Sexias"....know what I mean....
One thing though, the correct spelling is "Seixas". You can get some weird stuff looking up "Sexias"....know what I mean....
- Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Nelson’s tour and tithing
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10000
Re: Nelson’s tour and tithing
38 Him whom God had appointed to receive tithes for the poor. ... that money is no longer tithing and you can use it however you wish... like building malls. Actually, you may be onto something here. If I pay tithing (I don't) on my salary, but then invest it, I shouldn't have to pay more tit...
- Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:18 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Elder Renlund Opens Can of General Conference Worms
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9334
Re: Elder Renlund Opens Can of General Conference Worms
Isn't this nearly the same as Elder Faust telling the story of Thomas B. Marsh and the milk strippings? There was much more to that incident than Faust let on. But I doubt many members made the effort to research it. Easier to just take your leader's word for it that he's telling the true version of...
- Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:24 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Why I love the essays
- Replies: 54
- Views: 37210
Re: Why I love the essays
He's happy with his life because, finally, we have another polygamist prophet. He did it. Granted, it's just spiritual polygamy, but he was really happy to let us know in the talk where this picture was taken that he is sealed to two women. What's that they say....?? "Wickedness never was happiness...
- Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:02 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Collective self-deception
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7106
Re: Collective self-deception
I think policy/tradition grow out of doctrine or the way a leader might interpret that doctrine. Don't native tribes have more's that have grown out of their beliefs? Regarding LDS "doctrine" or dogma, I came to the conclusion that it really doesn't exist except in the minds of true believers. For e...