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- Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:38 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Big changes coming in April GC!
- Replies: 51
- Views: 25409
Re: Big changes coming in April GC!
They gotta call soon new apostles. that ain't small.
- Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:40 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Switched off vs. Pushed out?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11136
Re: Switched off vs. Pushed out?
I don't fit in either group. I left because the scriptures aren't scriptural. The Bible broke first, then seeing the literal requirements made on the Bible by revealed scripture finished me off. or is that a testimony issue? I mean it's not about spiritual witness or the lack thereof. It's not Churc...
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:34 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 23781
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:46 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Morality?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10787
Re: Morality?
Ad hoc arbitrariness is the problem all traditional religions share. Blind consensus covers this arbitrariness over, but as soon as you start asking questions, it becomes ever more obvious. Ethics and meta-ethics represent attempts to rationalize this arbitrariness, but can never seem to bootstrap ...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:20 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43436
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Mormons believe in the Jesus they find in the scriptures, whether well represented there or not. Others believe in the Jesus they find therein. Jesus is endlessly interpretable.
- Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:46 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Your Mission- the best and worst.
- Replies: 31
- Views: 15938
Re: Your Mission- the best and worst.
Teaching one discussion in first three months? That was my experience in Germany in the 80s. Best part, exploring Germany in a prolonged setting. Worst. Most of that was also an extended religious waste of 8000 dollars and 18 months of my life. My tuition per semester was only 800 just prior to my m...
- Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:42 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is belief a choice?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28990
Re: Is belief a choice?
A lot of epistemomlogy is concerned similarly to the simulation/demon deceived soul with the Brain in a Vat, BIV. Because we only experience "reality" at a remove from said reality we can not directly apprehend what our true state is. I could just as easily be a brain in a nutrient bath being fed a ...
- Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:59 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is belief a choice?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28990
Re: Is belief a choice?
Descartes also worried that he was just a demon decieved soul, akin to the modern simulation argument, just before computers.
- Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:10 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is belief a choice?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28990
Re: Is belief a choice?
I grow more skeptical of free will all the time. Susan Blackmore is interesting on the subject.
https://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/free-will/
https://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/free-will/
- Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:06 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is belief a choice?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28990
Re: Is belief a choice?
Now consider this quote from Scott Bakker. The thoughts of all men arise from the darkness. If you are the movement of your soul, and the cause of that movement precedes you, then how could you ever call your thoughts your own? How could you be anything other than a slave to the darkness that comes ...
- Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:03 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is belief a choice?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28990
Re: Is belief a choice?
I think the question has some problematic assumptions about belief and choice. Rather than a choice, I would say we evolved a set of responses that give us a predilection to what we term religion or belief. We are born with a first draft bias. Then the nurture and individual experience factors come ...
- Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:56 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Reasons for not criticizing church leaders
- Replies: 24
- Views: 13721
Re: Reasons for not criticizing church leaders
It's setting him up to fail.Meilingkie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:39 amContinuous imporvement, they call it Revelation.
Lately I have been having many of them.
Like Uchtdorf being assigned to Europe, I know it 1 week before it was announced.
I call it logical thinking, many LDS I spoke call the same revelation.
Re: Criticism
That talk was filled with cowardice and fear for himself. It's also like the quote of Oaks used in the PBS miniseries at 52 seconds in this promo. https://youtu.be/NvNDjND4eLI Such self serving hogwash and a way to divert any negative discussion of the leadership that would otherwise drive forward r...
- Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:08 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What was / is your purpose in being part of the church?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 24179
Re: What was / is your purpose in being part of the church?
I was BIC. But it sure never had a purpose.
- Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:55 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Question: Why did JS do it?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 21628
Re: Question: Why did JS do it?
Talking as a career path beat manual labor. The money sex and power came with his chosen con.
- Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:14 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: To the rescue
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3283
Re: To the rescue
To the rescue is about imposing their view on you. You're not in danger or need of help. That's where I would on start any conversation that veers into this territory.
Don't impose your world view on my situation; it doesn't apply and is very rude.
Don't impose your world view on my situation; it doesn't apply and is very rude.
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:39 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Resources for Bible authorship and history for Sunday School
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9415
Re: Resources for Bible authorship and history for Sunday School
This thinking seems to open a whole new can of worms. As I understand it, the newer hypothesis is not that there were fewer authors than J,E,D,&P, but that there were actually more original, but unnamed, sources that were combined by later by an editor or editors, rather than authors J and E. Is th...
- Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:37 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Righteous Mind- mods move if this isn't the right forum plz
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5812
Re: The Righteous Mind- mods move if this isn't the right forum plz
There are a number of kinds of selection. Most of the time when talking evolution we talk about stabilizing selection where a particular trait comes to dominate. But there are evolutionary rewards for maintaining a diverse pool as well to deal with sudden changes. You're part of the diversified pool...
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:02 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Resources for Bible authorship and history for Sunday School
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9415
Re: Resources for Bible authorship and history for Sunday School
Hmm wide consensus in the documentary hypothesis collapsed at the end of the twentieth century. It's now mostly D with a late P, in persia crafting the rest with Genesis a separate late addition. Interesting. Lots of shake up in pentateuch theory.
- Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:49 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Resources for Bible authorship and history for Sunday School
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9415
Re: Resources for Bible authorship and history for Sunday School
Start with the ducumentary hypothesis which gives the commonly referenced J, D, P, E.