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by wtfluff
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If You Liked the CES Letter...
Replies: 15
Views: 11790

Re: If You Liked the CES Letter...

The plates are critical physical evidence of the truth of the story but not essential to the production of the text. You just made my point right here: The plates are not essential to the production of the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon was produced by a magic rock. If the plates are not essent...
by wtfluff
Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If You Liked the CES Letter...
Replies: 15
Views: 11790

Re: If You Liked the CES Letter...

However it contains nothing new and is essentially a catalogue of virtually every complaint or criticism that anyone has raised about the church or Joseph Smith in my life time and I am old ! Interesting... Nothing new eh? Has the LDS Corporation come up with any "new" answers to theses "old" unans...
by wtfluff
Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: LDS Church and BSA part ways
Replies: 46
Views: 29899

Re: LDS Church and BSA part ways

I have a member of my family who is a very hard-core scouter. Overheard a conversation with said hard-core scouter yesterday, and they don't view this change as a big deal. (I was surprised.) As others have mentioned, the church is only dropping scouting for the boys over 14 years old, and according...
by wtfluff
Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Replies: 8
Views: 4604

Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?

This is how whoever wrote the gospels (since we don't actually know who they were) re-wrote "history" so that Jesus could fulfill some of the old-testament "prophecies", even though those prophecies had nothing to do with Jesus. Instead of writing down actual history, they wrote down what they " tho...
by wtfluff
Wed May 31, 2017 7:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Change in Google ADs?
Replies: 10
Views: 6846

Re: Change in Google ADs?

The Ads are marked as ADs . These are the purchased placements, the church pays to have them pop up first...I cannot figure TriGrace would somehow out spend the church. LDS.ORG is still top of the money pile but I've never seen anything other than Church sites appear in the paid content. I don't ge...
by wtfluff
Wed May 31, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #15 - Self evaluation
Replies: 25
Views: 12838

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #15 - Self evaluation

It's question number 3 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days? Let me do look okay that thread. Just about every time I've been asked that question, the first vision is a specific follow up question. I can think of three interviews where I've had this. S...
by wtfluff
Wed May 31, 2017 8:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: When did religion start and what is its purpose?i
Replies: 21
Views: 11987

Re: When did religion start and what is its purpose?i

Here's how I look at it: I think it is important to differentiate between religion and belief systems. That's why I said I prefer the term "world view" over religion. Although even in northwest/great plains american native tribes which were much more hunter\gatherer they still had Shaman or Holy me...
by wtfluff
Wed May 31, 2017 7:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #15 - Self evaluation
Replies: 25
Views: 12838

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #15 - Self evaluation

#15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances? Yes, I "consider myself worthy"; Though at this point in my life, I have absolutely no desire to "enter" and perform creepy plagiarized rituals. Am I "worthy" according to the LDS Corporation? No. Ho...
by wtfluff
Tue May 30, 2017 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: When did religion start and what is its purpose?i
Replies: 21
Views: 11987

Re: When did religion start and what is its purpose?i

As others have mentioned: "Religion" probably started when human-like creatures became self aware and basically started worshiping nature. It probably took a while before those creatures started creating gods in their own image, and worshiping those gods. What is religion's purpose? Well, when you b...
by wtfluff
Tue May 30, 2017 6:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #11 - WOW
Replies: 25
Views: 14260

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #11 - WOW

Random wrote:
Sun May 28, 2017 6:21 pm
I don't use tobacco, not even for sick cattle.
How 'bout bruises? Do you use tobacco for bruises? :mrgreen:
by wtfluff
Tue May 30, 2017 6:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #14 (the only one focused on the past vs present)
Replies: 18
Views: 10077

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #14 (the only one focused on the past vs present)

NOWmormon wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 4:48 am
#14
Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
No.

As other's have mentioned, there's really nothing in my life that needs to be "resolved" with the General Contractor down the street.
by wtfluff
Mon May 29, 2017 6:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Playing Chicken
Replies: 25
Views: 8644

Re: Playing Chicken

I have this image in my head of a bunch of people in a room pounding their heads against the wall and one guy suddenly saying, "man this sucks, I think I'll go do something less painful," even though he knows the others all will consider him a quitter. Oh man! This is the perfect analogy for LDS Co...
by wtfluff
Mon May 29, 2017 6:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #13 - Garments
Replies: 19
Views: 9828

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #13 - Garments

All-Righty-Then. Let's just break this up into it's separate individual questions. 13 If you have previously received your temple endowment: -Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? No. Those "covenants" were made by an idiotic, 19-year-old kid, under duress. I not longer consider tho...
by wtfluff
Sun May 28, 2017 2:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 ---------Question #12 (more financial obligations)
Replies: 17
Views: 8708

Re: A different Q15 ---------Question #12 (more financial obligations)

NOWmormon wrote:
Sun May 28, 2017 10:22 am
#12
Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
No to "part a" of the question.

(Whew! Easiest question so far...)
by wtfluff
Sat May 27, 2017 10:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #11 - WOW
Replies: 25
Views: 14260

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #11 - WOW

NOWmormon wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 9:35 am
#11
Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?
NOPE!

(Joseph never cared about it, why should I?)
by wtfluff
Fri May 26, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #10 (percent)
Replies: 19
Views: 11966

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #10 (percent)

#10 Are you a full-tithe payer? Oh boy... Another fun one. Here's my official answer: It depends . If going by the dishonest, wink-wink, nod-nod oral tradition in the LDS Corporation today of "10% of income", NO, I'm not a full tithe payer. If going by the actual definition of "10% of increase" as ...
by wtfluff
Thu May 25, 2017 9:19 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Cigars
Replies: 4
Views: 2244

Re: Cigars

A formerly mormon co-worker of mine has become a cigar aficionado. He has offered to instruct me in the art of the cigar. Like you, I have no desire. I guess that's my opinion, which doesn't help much with your questions, or maybe it does. I do know that when first trying it out, it can tend to make...
by wtfluff
Thu May 25, 2017 9:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #7 (NOM)
Replies: 21
Views: 10815

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #7 (NOM)

ulmite wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 5:47 am
And also science.
Genius!

Yes, I support, affiliate with, and agree with SCIENCE!

(Science is not a group or individual, so I guess it's still ok to support, affiliate with and agree...)
by wtfluff
Thu May 25, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: MONSON no longer going to COB.
Replies: 24
Views: 12888

Re: MONSON no longer going to COB.

I know this isn't appropriate, but I hope President Monson lives as long as possible, not out of compassion, but because Nelson is an insufferable prick. Amen Brother Oliver! Maybe the PR department is pulling a Weekend at Bernie's 'cause they don't want to deal with all the crazy sh*t Nelson's goi...
by wtfluff
Thu May 25, 2017 8:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #9 (Hypocrisy at its best)
Replies: 25
Views: 17463

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #9 (Hypocrisy at its best)

#9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen? I was sometimes a bit bothered answering this one back in the day. I did "borrow" a pen from work a couple months ago, ya know? But I do my best, so I'll answer: Yes. Now I'd like to answer: "Comparing my own honesty to that of the LDS Corpora...