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I have also seen TBM member do things that helped. One friend knew a woman was in an abusive marriage. The elder’s quorum told the men not to help her move out f the house as she was going against the bishop’s advice to stay with her temple marriage. He was the only man who showed up to help her ge...

Angel, you said members won't go outside the box to help a child? I did. When I was still a TBM I observed a man physically abusing a child alone in a classroom during sacrament mtg. I got in his face and told him to stop immediately. I told him he knew that was wrong. He didn't argue. I called CPS...

Hey, your feelings were not lies, just based on incorrect information. So, rather than distrusting your feelings, just keep searching for the best most accurate information. They were lies: Everything I felt good about, feelings of trust, feelings of comfort, love, safety - that "warm fuzzy" holy s...

Great topic. I do think I'm now on the spectrum - comfortably numb - no feelings. I found my past feelings to be completely false, false trust, false beliefs, false security - my feelings didn't protect, were based on lies, so I have no respect for feelings. In Tuchkman team formation stages, the s...

Great topic. I do think I'm now on the spectrum - comfortably numb - no feelings. I found my past feelings to be completely false, false trust, false beliefs, false security - my feelings didn't protect, were based on lies, so I have no respect for feelings. In Tuchkman team formation stages, the st...

Brainwashing is real. Cognitive dissonance is real. It's impossible to communicate with the brainwashed.

"The spirit" isn't from "God". God isn't real.

Empty boats. All of it, empty.

All abuse is awful. I guess we have to keep saying that. There is no excuse for violence. The church is a corporation. That is a fact. The members are patrons and volunteers who make up a portion of the staff. Some folks are often described as part of a "lay clergy." Other members are also employee...

Whether or not I can or can't find case evidence of what the church does or did or does not do - does not validate calling all the members part of a herd. Some folks are awful. Some are complicit in awful things. Most people are not. There seems to be a disconnect in what a person named Jane or Jim...

Neither is my Mum a sheep. Thanks. You have some great points, Angel. Sometimes though, the same conclusions or circumstances are not universal. Name a court case where a bishop, or RS president or any church official testified against a pedophile high priest to protect a child. Unless you can prov...

Neither is my Mum a sheep. Thanks. You have some great points, Angel. Sometimes though, the same conclusions or circumstances are not universal. Name a court case where a bishop, or RS president or any church official testified against a pedophile high priest to protect a child. Unless you can prov...

From Jim Jones to Heavens gate, none would reply they were slaves, none believed they were brainwashed. All the offshoot polygamous groups, Warren Jeffs, to all the fundamentalist groups - apple doesn't fall far from the tree. No one in a cult thinks they are a slave. I get it. I didn't think I was ...

My Mum would not describe herself as a slave. When I was TBM I wouldn't have described myself as a slave either. If you don't move, you can't feel the chains. It's not until you get that phone call from the detective... and then try to get help from those in the church.... that you realize... the c...

Am I my brother's keeper?
Good Samaritans tend to be surrounded by grateful hearts.

Many women do view Mormonism as slavery. Eternal polygamy - eternal adultery, nothing to look forward to, hell on earth and hell in heaven. Not proud of women who stayed married to pedophiles, who allowed their own kids to be abused.. then grandchildren to be abused. Not proud of those who forced th...

Mormonism: A religious ego-echo chamber of folks in fancy undergarments who believe magic handshakes, a white and delightsome ancestry, and $$ get alpha males into a super exclusive celestial club filled with harems of women. How do you define ex-mormonism? Different than this? The ex-cave dweller:...

Mormonism: A religious ego-echo chamber of folks in fancy undergarments who believe magic handshakes, a white and delightsome ancestry, and $$ get alpha males into a super exclusive celestial club filled with harems of women.

Local radio is broadcasting MLK speeches today. Uninterrupted. I think if an evangelical baptist minister gave the same speeches today, the minister would be treated unkindly. I will be very surprised if the country that is disavowing religious freedom and respect for all religions still has a holi...

Local radio is broadcasting MLK speeches today. Uninterrupted. I think if an evangelical baptist minister gave the same speeches today, the minister would be treated unkindly. I will be very surprised if the country that is disavowing religious freedom and respect for all religions still has a holi...

I thought it being Mlk day maybe we should reflect on how the church didn't like him and called him a communist etc etc. I don't have any qoutes or articles about this so I am hoping others can jump in and help on this important subject. I am 63 so I barely remember any Mlk speeches. Thanks I saw a...

... the Pope decided that priests can bless same-sex couples.... Back to the OP. forbidden love. Romeo and Juliet. To choose each other above societal norms and familial expectations. the power of love - can love transcend societal constraints? to stand against societal prejudices, discrimination, ...