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by PalmSprings
Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why there is so much shame in Mormonism
Replies: 33
Views: 24486

Re: Why there is so much shame in Mormonism

OK...I did misquote...but I found a direct reference. This experience is mentioned in an audio recording by Dr. John Lewis Lund in "The Myth we Call Perfection".....Covenant Communications Inc, 2003. I've since seen Dr. Lund has a bit of a racket going with stolen things in Israel. I think later in...
by PalmSprings
Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:47 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Did anyone here get a divorce over all of this?
Replies: 40
Views: 35551

Re: Did anyone here get a divorce over all of this?

The LDS influence was complicit in my divorce. I was in way too long,...and the church influenced that through fear, not through any enlightened doctrines. Ditto! I could go into all the dirty details of mine but in the end the details don't matter. Suffice it to say I should have divorced within t...
by PalmSprings
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Cognitive dissonance
Replies: 9
Views: 5545

Re: Cognitive dissonance

TBM: Isn't the church welfare program great! We do so much to help the poor and needy just like it's taught by Christ in the Bible. 007: Did you hear about Mary? She's homeless and there are 5 other people who are without a home that live in the ward also. TBM: Ohh I "heard" about Mary. *whispers* T...
by PalmSprings
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: McDonald's allegory
Replies: 14
Views: 11087

Re: McDonald's allegory

I'm craving french fries now! And lesbian grown organic foods... Then one day you realise that all you have been doing for years and years is just sitting there watching; mute, dissatisfied and hungry every time you go to McDonald’s and it’s no longer enough. You want to be in restaurants and kitch...
by PalmSprings
Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Leadership Meeting Leak
Replies: 44
Views: 27046

Re: Leadership Meeting Leak

(emphasis added)Q. How can a bishop help counsel a couple whose husband is entering a realm of agnosticism? A. Elder Perry: That is a real challenge and thank goodness you are a judge in Israel. This is the most insidious thing that could ever happen. What about child abuse? Divorce never solves an...
by PalmSprings
Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:53 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Jimmer
Replies: 5
Views: 4011

Re: Jimmer

Stalled?? Jimmer is a friggin god in China! You know, the market that Hollywood desperately tries to woo and the LDS leadership probably salivates over? This is all part of God's plan no doubt to introduce the restored gospel to billions. ;) Personally I think things would've worked out differently...
by PalmSprings
Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Selective Cultural Memory
Replies: 7
Views: 5904

Re: Selective Cultural Memory

I was listening to Lindsay Hansen Park's interview about the Snufferites on RadioWest last week and she mentioned a story about a vision seen at the dedication of the Kirtland temple. I had to see it in print and found it in The Oxford Handbook of Mormonism , edited by Terryl Givens, Chapter 32 by ...
by PalmSprings
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Any real experiences with blessings?
Replies: 57
Views: 43133

Re: Any real experiences with blessings?

How 'bout we take "experience" and any sort of bias out of the question, and just look at reality: If "priesthood blessings" actually worked there would be significantly less illness and death from said illness in areas with a high population of believing LDS folk. Statistics show that this is not ...
by PalmSprings
Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Post Resignation
Replies: 10
Views: 6723

Re: Post Resignation

Glad you made it to the other side ok Rebel. However the fact that your wife threatened divorce again is troubling. Personally I wouldn't ignore it, since there is a part of her that feels it is the answer. It's time for a heart to heart talk to see where she really stands. Make it clear of your int...
by PalmSprings
Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gender in the preexistence
Replies: 17
Views: 11977

Re: Gender in the preexistence

LSOF wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:59 pm
Finding contradictions in Mormonism is like finding longhorns in Texas.
Are you saying everything is big in mormonism including contradictions? :lol:
by PalmSprings
Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM Conference call? Group therapy?
Replies: 30
Views: 11753

Re: NOM Conference call? Group therapy?

Any further development on this? I'm thinking of joining in if it happens.
by PalmSprings
Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mission Kid Abandoned
Replies: 16
Views: 8074

Re: Mission Kid Abandoned

I've read through some of the comments on the ldsliving website and also on a page posted by the kid who was abandoned.. Of course they are mostly of the variety you would expect. Such as "There are worse places to be abandoned," etc. etc. However one comment that stuck with that was posted on a Fac...
by PalmSprings
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Guilt culture and shame culture
Replies: 2
Views: 1657

Re: Guilt culture and shame culture

My version of the quote as inspired by Rob4hope: The Real Todd Christifferson wrote: Sometimes those who raise a warning voice within the church are dismissed as judgmental. Paradoxically, however, those who claim forgiveness is available to all , are the ones who most harshly criticize people who d...
by PalmSprings
Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apostolic Coup d'-etat
Replies: 16
Views: 8752

Re: Apostolic Coup d'-etat

I just noticed in the footnotes of the Wikipedia article on John Willard Young it refers to a Dialog Article from Winter of 2002 by Todd Compton titled "John Willard Young, Brigham Young, and the Development of Presidential Succession in the LDS Church". I have not read the whole thing yet but it l...
by PalmSprings
Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Let the chips fall where they may
Replies: 17
Views: 10137

Re: Let the chips fall where they may

Keep us posted Palm Springs !!! Indeed! So yes I finally decided to take my name off the records. What finally led me to this is because of some weird dreams about the church due to the trauma I have suffered. Waking up thinking "How can I even be associated with this church?," has been a constant ...
by PalmSprings
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Porn is definitely the problem
Replies: 13
Views: 12683

Re: Porn is definitely the problem

.....I live within a high suicide area of this high suicide state. I do get wind of some of the reasons why. Not that many, certainly not most, of what I'm hearing isn't about being gay. A lot of it is just plain depression..... I think it is very interesting that this state is home to such a wide ...
by PalmSprings
Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Building a Temple in Haiti - really?
Replies: 7
Views: 4154

Re: Building a Temple in Haiti - really?

Well said Grace2Daisy!! Let's show compassion by taking care of the poor, hungry and needy! On top of that only a select few will be able to enter.
by PalmSprings
Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Porn is definitely the problem
Replies: 13
Views: 12683

Re: Porn is definitely the problem

Utah is woefully understaffed per capita when it comes to mental health counselors and treatment centers. Definitely agree here!! Bishops and the counselors at LDS family services don't cut it wouldn't you say?? Utah youth are also exposed to higher elevations that scientific studies have recently ...
by PalmSprings
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Let the chips fall where they may
Replies: 17
Views: 10137

Re: Let the chips fall where they may

Well after another day of verbal abuse from my wife I went to work all ticked off and today has become my independence day . Went to quit Mormon and resigned !!!!!!!!!! Big step for me but long over due !! She always says she can't be married to a non member so we will see where this leads me !!! B...
by PalmSprings
Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Hookers and blow
Replies: 33
Views: 17842

Re: Hookers and blow

I don't see anything wrong as he is not charging anyone for the podcasts. And asking for donations is fine as hosting and bandwidth of a popular podcast is not anywhere near cheap. Plus this is not taking advantage of anyone, people know what they are giving money to. He's a journalist and like any ...