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by annotatedbom
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Crap
Replies: 49
Views: 15026

Re: Crap

Just a quick update. DW seems to prefer staying together in spite of me grabbing a morning coffee. Things are largely back to how they were before, which I am happy with. Hopefully she is too. I do wonder if she is just biding her time while she works with a lawyer, but I guess I won't know until t...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Examples in the BoM where you can show *how* Joseph Smith authored it
Replies: 21
Views: 6655

Re: Examples in the BoM where you can show *how* Joseph Smith authored it

I have mentioned this before but I think it is a good example of Joseph winging it as he was dictating. These are what I call the "oops!" moments, when Joseph catches himself saying something wrong or stupid, and then tries to smooth it over. It also presents another big problem for tight translati...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: progress with spouse?
Replies: 15
Views: 4226

Re: progress with spouse?

It can be very lonely at times, for both spouses. As Jung said: Loneliness does not come from having no people about one, but from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to oneself, or from holding certain views which others find inadmissible. Just don't drink coffee... Hahahaaa...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: progress with spouse?
Replies: 15
Views: 4226

Re: progress with spouse?

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by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sexism of exmormon men
Replies: 26
Views: 8159

Re: Sexism of exmormon men

Thank you for posting this link. She means: Just because people leave the church, it doesn't mean that they stop having thoughts or behaviors that are sexist or racist or prejudiced against other groups of people. Leaving the church doesn't mean that people automatically lose their biased thinking ...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: progress with spouse?
Replies: 15
Views: 4226

Re: progress with spouse?

I've been out to my wife for almost 11 years now. What a rollercoaster ride it's been. Like others here, for the first year or two I was active enough in the Church that I think it helped feed her denial about my complete disbelief in the truth and authority claims of la Iglesia. She's moved beyond ...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Crap
Replies: 49
Views: 15026

Re: Crap

Linked, I'm sorry to hear you and your wife are dealing with this. Trying to have a marriage thrive when one is TBM and the other a former believer can be so difficult at times. Nelson likes to change things. Alcohol and tobacco... eh, okay. Coffee and tea... what are you kidding? It's high time the...
by annotatedbom
Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 49
Replies: 10
Views: 3997

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 49

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 49 , Dec 14-20, 2020, Moroni 10 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ How well does the Book of Mormon promise work? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about t...
by annotatedbom
Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48
Replies: 6
Views: 2179

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48

Hagoth,

I totally agree.
See If I Could Ask ... Lesson 30 for my take on the dangerous idea that sex is like murder
by annotatedbom
Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48
Replies: 6
Views: 2179

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48

Warning In this week's post I discuss sexual assault and victim shaming. If that might be too distressing, you may want to skip this one. Click here if you are comfortable reading my thoughts on this week's lesson Here’s a list of some other observations about this lesson’s reading . (The sensitive...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47
Replies: 7
Views: 2447

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:43 am
What a huge financial savings for the church if they were only printing copies of the BoM for the intended audience.
Hahaaa :lol:
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47
Replies: 7
Views: 2447

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 47 , Nov 30 - Dec 6, 2020, Moroni 1-6 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Who is Moroni writing to? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about this lesson’s re...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 46
Replies: 5
Views: 2027

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 46

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 46 , Nov 23-29, 2020, Ether 12-15 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ What evidence would you expect from such large civilizations? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other obs...
by annotatedbom
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45
Replies: 14
Views: 4288

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45

Hagoth wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:45 pm
Stop the presses! I think I figured out both the door problem and the reason they needed bees:
https://youtu.be/V-RAsj6tIVo?t=50
Haha! another unlikely story, but the one you offer is very entertaining. I must have seen this as a kid, because it makes me feel very nostalgic.
by annotatedbom
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45
Replies: 14
Views: 4288

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45

The best apologetics is to view these Book of Mormon stories in much the same way as Mother Goose stories. Plot holes and conundrums can be found in Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, and Little Red Riding Hood. Sure these stories are more appealing than those in the Book of Mormon, but they were put tog...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45
Replies: 14
Views: 4288

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 45 , Nov 16-22, 2020, Ether 6-11 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Does the Jaredite voyage strain credulity? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about this...
by annotatedbom
Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Utah's Beloved Gospel is Fraud The Worst in the U.S.
Replies: 4
Views: 1716

Re: Utah's Beloved Gospel is Fraud The Worst in the U.S.

Such an interesting article, especially that it's in DesNews. This part of your quote seems to be a tip of the hat to the Church's claims about how to know truth: Pugsley said Latter-day Saints are taught to trust their feelings, but while that might be a valid basis for religious decisions, ... I a...
by annotatedbom
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 44
Replies: 9
Views: 3633

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 44

They were in those barges/submarines for almost a year, without fresh water. Did the magic rocks also act as a water purification system, too? What about the sanitation problems? Urine and feces would be spilling all over everywhere when trying to shove it through the small hole. At a certain point...
by annotatedbom
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 44
Replies: 9
Views: 3633

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 44

Another excellent post. The challenge is how get those afflicted with "Mormon Myopia" to consider such problems with the BOM 'abridgement?' :roll: Good point! This is exactly why I have the conditional clause, " If I could ask them ... " I expect anything from my site to have a very low probability...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 44
Replies: 9
Views: 3633

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 44

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 44 , Nov 9-15, 2020, Ether 1-5 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Why did Moroni give us Ether's Genealogy? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about this le...