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by Yobispo
Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is the official story on the fate of the Golden Plates?
Replies: 16
Views: 4949

Re: What is the official story on the fate of the Golden Plates?

I tend to buy the argument that Joseph made a set of plates out of tin (or something). Wishful thinking, but I'd love to peek into the 1st Presidency vault and find the ultimate smoking gun - the tin plates.
by Yobispo
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Priesthood vs. Energy Healing
Replies: 10
Views: 3371

Re: Priesthood vs. Energy Healing

The church also slightly opened the door when they admitted that women used to have some role in healing blessings. To my knowledge, the church never said that women used to be able to be ordained, set people apart or bless for anything other than health, which is what these people are now doing. It...
by Yobispo
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and Peter Bleakley
Replies: 17
Views: 6922

Re: RFM and Peter Bleakley

Charlotte wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:48 am
I can’t find episode 4 on YouTube. Could someone link to it? Thanks.
try Peter's Facebook page
by Yobispo
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and Peter Bleakley
Replies: 17
Views: 6922

Re: RFM and Peter Bleakley

I hate it when you guys talk about great podcasts. I have to question my self induced Mormon podcast ban I placed upon myself a few years back and make an exception to listen. What is his end game? To agitate for change from within? What’s caused him to be so vocal and speak out on a known “anti Mo...
by Yobispo
Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zygotes on thrones
Replies: 18
Views: 6175

Re: Zygotes on thrones

That's what I was thinking. Wouldn't that be an important piece of knowledge to have? No wishy-washy-ness? But then actual murder is also okay in some circumstances. Laban had to be killed for preserving scriptures, death penalty, burning witches, taking out terrorists, etc. The only really importa...
by Yobispo
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zygotes on thrones
Replies: 18
Views: 6175

Re: Zygotes on thrones

The church's stance on abortion is more nuanced than most members portray. As i remember it, Hinckley said that since we don't know when the soul enters the body we err on the side of caution. Or similar meaning words. Thus it can be lesser than murder and there are circumstances where it is valid....
by Yobispo
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 88
Views: 29667

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

The most recent episode of Hidden Brain seems to me to apply to these events. You can find it here: https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/screaming-into-the-void/ . It deals with the outrage cycle. The way to get attention in our social media world is to be outraged. Using emotion and ridicule get people...
by Yobispo
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zygotes on thrones
Replies: 18
Views: 6175

Re: Zygotes on thrones

The church's stance on abortion is more nuanced than most members portray. As i remember it, Hinckley said that since we don't know when the soul enters the body we err on the side of caution. Or similar meaning words. Thus it can be lesser than murder and there are circumstances where it is valid....
by Yobispo
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 88
Views: 29667

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

Kwaku also stoked the flames after John brought attention to the threat with stupid comments about John's "grave". My opinion: Kwaku is engaging in parody, but he's missing the key ingredient that parody needs, which is truth. When Thinker put out the fake apology a while back, it was clever. You ca...
by Yobispo
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have a NHM explainer handy by chance?
Replies: 21
Views: 7923

Re: Does anyone have a NHM explainer handy by chance?

Between Hagoth's point about Comoros and Hamer's point about Nahum, NHM can be dismissed out of hand. If it is a "hit" because of it's similarity to the BoM text, then so are Comoros and Nahum, both of which prove the fraud. Can't have it both ways, but of course, apologists need to have it both ways.
by Yobispo
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM Does President Nelson!
Replies: 7
Views: 2882

Re: RFM Does President Nelson!

RFM and crew saving lives today!
by Yobispo
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mask wearing at Temple recommend question
Replies: 8
Views: 2640

Re: Mask wearing at Temple recommend question

Ha! Adding something to help alleviate virus spread to the temple recommend question would mean that Rusty and the other 14 stooges would actually have to "take a stand" on something during these pandemic times; Besides whining that they weren't able to spread as much guilt and shame via Zoom as th...
by Yobispo
Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:59 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: An Old White Man Discusses Racism
Replies: 38
Views: 10797

Re: An Old White Man Discusses Racism

He may have been talking about racism, but he was really talking about obedience to the PSR's, as always. He can never mention the old stance without reminding members just how wrong they were before. And if they were wrong before (including all of the current leaders who were adults in 1978) then w...
by Yobispo
Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Calling B.S. on Conference
Replies: 5
Views: 2865

Re: Calling B.S. on Conference

She was quite passionate in that talk, which leads me to believe she was repeating something she had heard but that she really believed. It's no excuse for telling a BS story, of course. After all the BS stories and people getting caught (Dunn and Holland come to mind) I am still surprised that they...
by Yobispo
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jaredite logistics
Replies: 18
Views: 5964

Re: Jaredite logistics

The answer to all of this is something like "have faith" or "trust in the Lord" or "didn't you receive a witness of the book?" But a problem with faith-based answers is that the book goes into some design features, like the plug holes, no windows and the size. Why bother giving any detail at all if...
by Yobispo
Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jaredite logistics
Replies: 18
Views: 5964

Re: Jaredite logistics

The answer to all of this is something like "have faith" or "trust in the Lord" or "didn't you receive a witness of the book?" But a problem with faith-based answers is that the book goes into some design features, like the plug holes, no windows and the size. Why bother giving any detail at all if ...
by Yobispo
Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Canonized Stupidity
Replies: 33
Views: 13235

Re: Canonized Stupidity

D&C 7 - Joseph has an argument with Oliver about whether John "tarried" or died. He wins the argument by looking at the seer stone, seeing a parchment with John's handwriting on it, and the parchment answers the question in Joseph's favor, bing bang boom - Joseph is right. D&C 8 - The time when Oliv...
by Yobispo
Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 27
Views: 11888

Re: General Konference Predictions

I remember the days of hoping for some big revelation coming out at conference. It was the last days and all. Surely the prophet would have some vital proclamation to make. Now I predict he will say nothing of any real value to mankind other than confirming to live a christ like life. Which does no...
by Yobispo
Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another blow to John Gee
Replies: 14
Views: 7526

Re: Another blow to John Gee

I've been browsing and occasionally commenting on some faithful reddit boards, and it astounds me how much they defend John Gee and his work, and claim that Jana is "out to get him" and had a nefarious hand in getting his book pulled from Deseret Book and the BYU religious centre. Lest we forget, J...
by Yobispo
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is anyone talking about the new proclamation?
Replies: 33
Views: 15771

Re: Is anyone talking about the new proclamation?

I think we'll find out how important it is to the leadership by how much they reference it in the next GC Show.