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by Hagoth
Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

MalcolmVillager wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:14 pm
What a great experience. I am jealous, cockroaches and all. Just don't the Guini Pigs. I fell in live with Peru on a visit. Would live to go back.
The cockroaches turned out to be crickets which, for some reason, didn't bother me at all. And I did eat the guinea pig. It was pretty tasty.
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: All answers can be found at the FAIR conference, so sign up!
Replies: 4
Views: 1931

All answers can be found at the FAIR conference, so sign up!

"You can learn about Book of Mormon names, Book of Mormon witnesses, the witness of women, reading Genesis, dealing with evolution after you read Genesis, Book of Mormon geography, freemasonry and Mormon temples and more. Plus, you get to hang out with over 400 very cool people. This year we have ad...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Good research -- Joseph actually DID have sex
Replies: 7
Views: 3649

Re: Good research -- Joseph actually DID have sex

Is there supposed to be a link here or something?
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

I remember some areas (maybe close to your site) that looked oddly bare- like a desert. That's right. It NEVER rains there, except every 25 years or so when El Nino wreaks havoc, which was a reason for the desperate and bloody religions that tried to appease the gods to keep El Nino at bay. They ir...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

I visited Chiclayo - but haven't ventured far off the main roads, as it sounds like you have. That's amazing that you've been to Chiclayo, Newme. If you headed south on the N1 from there you drove right past our site, which is a mountain that has been converted into a multi-walled fortress/temple c...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apostolic Coup d'-etat
Replies: 16
Views: 8754

Re: Apostolic Coup d'-etat

Consiglieri, I won't have a chance to listen for a while but I'm really looking forward to it. I wonder how many other power grabs of various kinds and lesser degrees there have been in the intervening years. I'm thinking of the way the autopen was used to transfer control of the organization away f...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mom's question. "What was your very first question/doubt?" My response.
Replies: 4
Views: 2562

Re: Mom's question. "What was your very first question/doubt?" My response.

WdSkate wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 11:27 am
I never could feel right about it.
Don't forget the ultimate cop-out answer: Joseph did it to test your faith.
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral Dilemma -- to keep something going even if wrong
Replies: 62
Views: 41047

Re: Moral Dilemma -- to keep something going even if wrong

I remember in one of Bednar's first talks, he mentions being given a set of books and documents he was required to study before he was to be set apart. He said it required "in depth study" and he repeated that phrase with emphasis. I had the impression it was historical stuff, not policy and proced...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral Dilemma -- to keep something going even if wrong
Replies: 62
Views: 41047

Re: Moral Dilemma -- to keep something going even if wrong

Rob, I think all of your justifications apply in various mixtures, depending on the GA in question. I'm quite sure that Dieter Uchtdorf's justifications don't align perfectly with Boyd Packer's, but they both draw from various combinations of those things. Apart from everything else, I imagine that ...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah had technology
Replies: 31
Views: 18786

Re: Noah had technology

Hugh Nibley did a similar thing when he tried to patch up the innate silliness of the Jaredite story by claiming that they had air compressors and other technology. I remember when I was a kid struggling with the Santa Clause story and I tried to salvage it by convincing myself that he used a sub-or...
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Flywheel Effect
Replies: 14
Views: 13944

Re: The Flywheel Effect

I wonder if we'll be seeing a resurgence of persecution rhetoric as growth crosses the line into decline.
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

I'm back in Zion again. Wow, what a crazy, fascinating experience. I saw civilizations that ranged from 5800 years ago right up to the time of Spanish Conquest, so the Americas were massively populated long before and after BoM times. No gold plates, no wooden submarines. Lots of victims of sacrific...
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mom Has Passed Into Eternity
Replies: 34
Views: 13809

Re: Mom Has Passed Into Eternity

I had a very similar experience with my mom. It's tough. Thoughts and prayers, Achilles.
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I lost my son
Replies: 74
Views: 25980

Re: I lost my son

I wish we could hold your hand.
by Hagoth
Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another shot at Runnels CES letter
Replies: 27
Views: 18154

Re: Another shot at Runnels CES letter

[I've glanced through it, and self-righteously said to myself: "I already know all of this. Nothing to see here. Move along..." It is pretty hilarious that they consider Jeremy " The One Mighty And Strong 'Anti-Mormon'." I read it but there was nothing I wasn't already aware of. I found his FAIR re...
by Hagoth
Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mom Is Improving Dramatically
Replies: 47
Views: 17803

Re: Mom Is Improving Dramatically

These times with parents are really tough. I'm so glad to hear that she's improving. Best of luck, my friend.
by Hagoth
Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

Newme, sorry, I've been trying to respond for days but couldn't connect. The long answer was lost each time. Here's the short answer: I'm in the northwest coastal region known a Lambeyeque.
by Hagoth
Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

Silver Girl wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:59 am
You have an exciting job! At least to Silver Girl, who's most exciting times at work involve memes on the Internet.
Unfortunately I'm not getting paid :( . But I am getting graduate school credit. :)
by Hagoth
Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I gone done and poked the hornets nest
Replies: 12
Views: 5186

Re: I gone done and poked the hornets nest

. One of the most maddening things of all is that she keeps telling me that we cannot anthropomorphize the church. "The Church" is not capable of abandoning, hurting, or otherwise affecting people. It is a thing, that has stuff to offer. Nothing more. Bullshit. Like the way a bank can't kick you ou...
by Hagoth
Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14907

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

News flash! We just excavated a stack of metal plates with heioglyph-like characters*





*Just kidding