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by No Tof
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello, I am...
Replies: 18
Views: 12290

Re: Hello, I am...

Welcome. It all starts in a similar way. We learn about something that doesn’t fit in our view of the church world. Then in trying to make sense of it, all hell breaks loose. Hope this place will make your journey a bit more comfortable. Buckle up. If you thought the end times before the second comi...
by No Tof
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: BYU Police Report Bombshells
Replies: 8
Views: 6015

Re: BYU Police Report Bombshells

Of all the issues edging me towards resignation from this church, this business of covering for Mr Joseph is the most damning. There is no justification for the way officials for our church have acted towards this victim and the long term propping up of this sexual predator. Even before your “nails ...
by No Tof
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Had a mind-bending talk with DD last night
Replies: 3
Views: 2625

Re: Had a mind-bending talk with DD last night

The shedding of all those taboo topics of discussion is one if the great advantages of giving yourself back your personal power.

It gives you the ability to get closer then ever to your loved ones.

No guilt no shame. Just love.
by No Tof
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Would you consider an LDS-lover again?
Replies: 29
Views: 16508

Re: Would you consider an LDS-lover again?

I have a TBM LDS lover now and wouldn’t trade her for anything. If I had to find another partner I don’t think I’d discriminate on the grounds of church affiliation. If I wasn’t with DW I probably wouldn’t have much or any connection to the church so the likelihood of connecting with a member would ...
by No Tof
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:13 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: new member - wanted to say hi!
Replies: 12
Views: 8061

Re: new member - wanted to say hi!

Glad you found us jfro! Vent away. You might come to regret giving me the green light to vent away :lol: First of all welcome. This is an inclusive group. Venting here is good. Venting in real life is risky. It’s hard to know how your important others will react. Better to test the waters with us h...
by No Tof
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Consistently Confused
Replies: 23
Views: 16843

Re: Consistently Confused

Coming in late to this thread but welcome just the same. Your willingness to share your situation with this group is, besides being interesting, helpful to us in similar situations. The challenges of faith growth and growing pains that accompany it are real. Knowing there can be successful outcomes ...
by No Tof
Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Meilingkie is divorcing
Replies: 23
Views: 10091

Re: Meilingkie is divorcing

I can’t imagine divorce ever being a pleasant experience but hopefully after the dust settles and healing time passes, you will find the peace and happiness you deserve.

Best to you going forward.
by No Tof
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to get out of cleaning the church...
Replies: 27
Views: 17338

Re: How to get out of cleaning the church...

Despite the fact that I go so rarely now I never get asked to help with anything, I wouldn't mind helping to clean the building. It's used for lots of good purposes that have nothing to do with the dogma of the religion. If you like most of us need a break from all things mormon, it's ok to retake y...
by No Tof
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: President Nelson's Message to Kenya
Replies: 22
Views: 15352

Re: President Nelson's Message to Kenya

I'm trying to remember if I truly believed this craziness when I was in. I know they've constantly preached the prosperity gospel, and that "the windows of heaven" would open from paying tithing, but I don't remember any blatant statements like "tithing can break the cycles of poverty." It's easy t...
by No Tof
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Strategy #9: How to stop wearing garments.
Replies: 15
Views: 9119

Re: Strategy #9: How to stop wearing garments.

You may not be an apostle but definitely a saint. Saint Red I think my old bag of garments are still sequestered to the top shelf in the closet but the idea of wearing them has not entered my thoughts for a couple of years. Thank the gods. I will be anticipating with glee to hear of how your very cr...
by No Tof
Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Meaning of Joseph's death
Replies: 8
Views: 4273

Re: Meaning of Joseph's death

Considering all the ways different prophets/shamen/holy men have exited mortality, Joseph Smith's last few days don't seem to imitate Jesus, Moses, the three Nephites, Elijah, or other prophets. Perhaps his passing could be compared to some prophets_ (John the Baptist, Paul?) What meaning do to you...
by No Tof
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:24 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 489
Views: 310041

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Tried a can of Kilkenny beer last night. Upon opening the can, something inside was activated to add nitrogen to the mix. This was the first time for me and it seemed really cool. You beer gurus can probably explain this to me. (please) Anyway, it was for me a nice beer experience. Smooth feel, not ...
by No Tof
Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Talking to family
Replies: 20
Views: 12211

Re: Talking to family

I'm not as integrated as Corsair, but have been venturing back to the meeting house on occasion, to have more love at home and so far have had very few interested TBMs chatting me up. I think a possible way to approach conversations would be to speak to the new and exciting information on the LDS.or...
by No Tof
Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: In which crazies gonna craze
Replies: 23
Views: 13386

Re: In which crazies gonna craze

So I went with DW to F and T meeting today. It's been a couple of years for this particular meeting in the home ward. Predictable tales of how spiritual GC was and how they all knew he is the prophet. Yawn. Excitement about the new/same as the old Ministering program and how this will help us stretc...
by No Tof
Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why the Emphasis on New Revelation in GC?
Replies: 35
Views: 22142

Re: Why the Emphasis on New Revelation in GC?

We should also take into account that this type of revelation is easy to fulfill. No waiting to see if god is really at the helm. Abra kadabra et voila the change occurred. Must be revelation. It’s the same kind of revelation I get when changing underwear. (It’s blue) PS. Especially enjoyed the last...
by No Tof
Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: New member here
Replies: 8
Views: 4583

Re: New member here

As Brigham would have said, “this is the place”.

Welcome.

Love to hear more of your story.
by No Tof
Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Saturday Morning Session Thread!!!!
Replies: 153
Views: 69381

Re: Saturday Morning Session Thread!!!!

Coffee in.
Good idea Captain.

This thread is so much better then actually watching GC.

Thanks. Will tune back in at noon. :D
by No Tof
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:04 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 489
Views: 310041

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Finished with a nice port and cheese for dessert.
by No Tof
Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 489
Views: 310041

Re: What are you drinking right now?

hard apple cider before dinner with a nice cold white wine with dinner.

bon appatite.
by No Tof
Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anxiety
Replies: 6
Views: 3410

Re: Anxiety

Hang in there.

never said it would be easy, just worth it. ;)