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by Rob4Hope
Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Best Two Years?
Replies: 39
Views: 11834

Re: The Best Two Years?

Worst 2 years of my life. We were taught that "every missionary should baptize a person each month." And since God would never ask you to do something he wouldn't provide a way for you to accomplish, if you didn't baptize, it was because you were not WORTHY. The most toxic word in the LDS cannon to ...
by Rob4Hope
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Test the Spirits
Replies: 12
Views: 4164

Re: Test the Spirits

Several years ago I was given a few books by Bednar. I don't remember the titles. What I do remember was they basically enthroned the position of "have enough faith NOT to be healed". In one book, I read things that were so offensive to me -- victim blaming -- that I dumped the lot in the trash. The...
by Rob4Hope
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Canonized Stupidity
Replies: 33
Views: 13233

Re: Canonized Stupidity

From a more contemporary place, stuff like this makes me ROFL!!!


You think Bruce was tooting his own horn?


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by Rob4Hope
Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What happened in General Confernce
Replies: 9
Views: 4272

Re: What happened in General Confernce

AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:14 am
Men and women are equal. Racism is bad, all races are equal.

But the pulpit continues to be dominated by white men.
...and the Book of Mormon makes those with a dark skin to be "loathsome".....ie, ugly.
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Does this mean the church disavows the Book of Mormon?
by Rob4Hope
Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Coronavirus and GAs
Replies: 12
Views: 5394

Re: Coronavirus and GAs

The Holiest of Websites has answered all of your Coronavires and GA questions: https://www.ksl.com/article/50027373/high-ranking-latter-day-saint-leaders-all-test-negative-for-coronavirus Edit: On second thought, maybe KSL is the second-holiest of websites... DUDE....that is a creepy ass picture....
by Rob4Hope
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Coronavirus and GAs
Replies: 12
Views: 5394

Re: Coronavirus and GAs

If some of those older GA guys get this, it would prove the end to many, IMHO. They are certainly old enough, and the way they use to travel can't be helpful for their immunity.
by Rob4Hope
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormonism seeks and embraces all truth?
Replies: 11
Views: 4585

Re: Mormonism seeks and embraces all truth?

So......what about the changes in tongues speaking? There is a historical record that BY did some of this. I personally believe the historical record was doctored on this.

And now the whole tongues thing has been changed to foreign missionaries learning the language.
by Rob4Hope
Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormonism seeks and embraces all truth?
Replies: 11
Views: 4585

Re: Mormonism seeks and embraces all truth?

I think this thread is not being fair to Joseph. The genius of Joseph Smith was that he could take what he saw as truth from where ever he found it and cobble it together into some semblance of religion. But Joseph as original prophet was the only one allowed to do that. All truth that science has ...
by Rob4Hope
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Coronavirus and GAs
Replies: 12
Views: 5394

Coronavirus and GAs

Elder Gong and his wife have it.

I suppose this will curtail the GAs doing their travel like they usually do. Why can't they just "bless" it away with the priesthood?

Thoughts about all of this and its impact on the upper leadership?
by Rob4Hope
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormonism seeks and embraces all truth?
Replies: 11
Views: 4585

Re: Mormonism seeks and embraces all truth?

Deacon Blues.....I agree this is at least one of the BIGGEST lies Joseph Smith ever said. The church now plays a massive game of gas-lighting to protect itself, hiring legions of apologists, using ad-hominem attacks, intentionally withholding information, suppressing scholarship, and all the while t...
by Rob4Hope
Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What happened in General Confernce
Replies: 9
Views: 4272

What happened in General Confernce

Anything interesting? I did read they are doing new temples. But isn't temple attendance down? I remember watching the Scientology series Leah Remeni did. She showed in several episodes that the Scientology church had BIG buildings...but they were generally empty. It was their way of building the il...
by Rob4Hope
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bruce McConkie days
Replies: 7
Views: 3560

Re: Bruce McConkie days

Bruce didn't pull punches in that first edition. Its interesting stuff.
by Rob4Hope
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bruce McConkie days
Replies: 7
Views: 3560

Re: Bruce McConkie days

That is an EXCELLENT lead. Thank you. Specifically, it seems like Bruce was a VERY strong proponent that death only happened on this planet after Adam took the fruit--not before. That is a completely indefensible position IMHO. That guy was REALLY sucked in....he seems to have believed, hook line an...
by Rob4Hope
Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bruce McConkie days
Replies: 7
Views: 3560

Bruce McConkie days

Does anyone have a copy of the old Mormon Doctrine (the first edition),...and can you comment on some of the changes made when Bruce got it wrong?
by Rob4Hope
Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple changes
Replies: 35
Views: 16787

Re: Temple changes

I have heard rumor from a bishopric acquaintance that in the new version only the witness couple receive the tokens. I wonder if anything changes at the veil. That makes sense. The parts where there is a high risk of transmission would be with the tokens, the prayer circle and at the veil. I wonder...
by Rob4Hope
Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner
Replies: 71
Views: 29104

Re: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner

The shifts in church doctrine make me wonder how easily people, Including myself in this, can be swayed by authority and charisma. After listening to this podcast (which was FANTASTIC bye-the-way), I have wondered about JS and the early brethren. Those men were dangerous people, for several reasons:...
by Rob4Hope
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doctrinal Dominos
Replies: 21
Views: 10142

Re: Doctrinal Dominos

But I could never understand how the din0saurs, which must have been alive when Adam was, .... well, how did Noah fit those big creatures,...2 by 2, in his little ark? It made no sense to me at all. It's all been answered by this documentary about the creation museum's ark replica (spoiler: the din...
by Rob4Hope
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doctrinal Dominos
Replies: 21
Views: 10142

Re: Doctrinal Dominos

Since the church is true and God would never let someone be born gay (see BKP), then why has my friend prayed, fasted, begged, pleaded, and even submitted himself to church sanctioned electrical shock therapy to find himself still gay? Why does he have no memory,...not a single one,...of ever being ...
by Rob4Hope
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doctrinal Dominos
Replies: 21
Views: 10142

Re: Doctrinal Dominos

Race and Priesthood.

The LDS church taught that children who died before the age of 8 were automatically saved.

What would the case be if a black child died before the age of 8?
by Rob4Hope
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doctrinal Dominos
Replies: 21
Views: 10142

Re: Doctrinal Dominos

2. Death existed before the fall First domino in my chain. I remember listening to BRM who was "THE MAN" back in the day. When he spoke, the "thinking had been done." But I could never understand how the din0saurs, which must have been alive when Adam was, .... well, how did Noah fit those big crea...