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I'd say I'm surprised but then again they just released a video on seer stones that is dishonest at every step.

But it takes some balls to promote a story on video that has been thoroughly debunked... I guess they hope people don't search it further.

hahahahaha... someone needs to design a real LDS escape room. That would be absolutely hilarious.

Thanks for the responses :) This was not a question I brought up nor is one I really want to tackle. We're trying to find core values we can work together on in teaching our kid - I had suggested we focus on the Bible because I can get behind New Testament values/lessons so we can give our child som...

I don't know if this is a support or mixed faith marriage post, but seems like something everyone can relate to? Over the last year since finding all the stuff out about Mormonism, my wife and I have been trying to find footing to move forward on while she has retrenched in the church and I have obv...

I started dating a Mormon in high school and took the discussions with her and her parents. I joined in college once I was not living with my parents (who were OK with it but I was trying to be sensitive to everyone). We got married soon after... I stopped going to church about a decade after I star...

There is plenty enough really messed up stuff in Church history - we don’t need sensationally speculative crap like this. Well documented history gives us all the batcrap crazy we need in Church history, speculation like this just muddies the waters. This is always a good rule of thumb -- there's n...

I listened to this today while working - it's really interesting not just because it shows the 1835 FV account was likely suppressed along with the 1832 version, but the implications in your citation about how letterbooks get flipped over and used on both sides... which ties into those lost 16 pages...

There were rumors that Joseph was going to disavow polygamy as a mistake and order everyone to give up all extra wives. That would not have been something that Brigham wanted, and Brigham DID want power, so I could believe that Brigham would be part of such a plot. But we need better evidence than ...

I just read the article - it is horrifying. As I read the first two parts I thought "This is terrible but it's really nothing the church itself could've prevented," and then you're just slammed over the head in the last part with how the church hid details of Jensen's abuse when they moved to WV alo...

Dan Vogel discussed his research on this issue in a recent interview with Rick Bennett. Here is a link to the first of their discussions. https://gospeltangents.com/2019/06/first-vision-conflicts/ All the best, Bob Was going to post this - it's a short listen and goes through all of this very caref...

I wish they would try to correlate the method use of the seer stones with that of the Urim and Thummim in the Bible. You did not look at the Urim and Thummim of the the Bible in the dark like a crystal ball. They appear to be more like a pair of dice that produced a binary yes/no answer. In Samuel ...

Thanks for posting this - I know there are a bunch of us that are still in the stressful and dangerous ups and downs of a mixed faith marriage, so seeing people start to find their stride is always encouraging. And yes 100000% on the garments. I wish so much they would do away with them... my wife w...

I don't think anyone can deny that living expenses increase over time, I'm not so sure we need to read anything sinister into this. My TBM mother in law quickly pointed out that the $400 cost has been that way for 20-something years... so of course they needed to raise up. My counter to that is the...

They like to say he used both, and who are you to say otherwise? As dogbite mentions, It's not me who says otherwise, it's history that says otherwise. Nephite spectacles were (supposedly) used to translate the 116 pages, then MORONi (Nephi?) took the spectacles and never returned them. The 116 pag...

Would have been nice to include the anachronism of "spectacles" for the U&T. Yeah, and they still lie about how the so-called pre-historic Nephite spectacles were used to translate the BoM. They like to say he used both, and who are you to say otherwise? That's the greatest part about not being abl...

I saw this today... it's so absurd. They use some gibberish for "Reformed Egyptian" instead of the characters that Joseph wrote down, because the characters that Joseph wrote down are just modified English. And as FiveFingerMnemonic said, comparing what Moses used to Joseph is absurd because Moses w...

In the temple endowment a women is told that she will be a priestess “unto” her husband. So, I suspect that in the second anointing, a wife is ordained to the priesthood of her husband as he becomes her God. This is why women cannot be ordained to the priesthood of Jesus Christ. Because he (Jesus) ...

A show like that would truly be fascinating. I mean I have come to really hate the church as an institution, but I can't deny it's really fascinating... and the two non-members I've really talked about the church with are mesmerized at the insanity of it. So I think a show like that would do well......

Sometimes I wonder if people MUST feel belonging by joining in mob mentality in shunning others. 1st, it’s: “If you don’t believe as us Mormons - doom on you!” Then when Mormonism is no longer tenable, it then becomes, “If you don’t believe as us lgbtq - doom on you!” This ideological throwing rock...

I don't think I can do another Saints book - doing the first one was such a grind! Although I would enjoy documenting it with adding in all of the ways that Brigham Young was an absolute monster, and watching to see how the church conveniently skirts around Adam-God, blood atonement, Brigham's insan...