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by jfro18
Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023
Replies: 71
Views: 15856

Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

-500 for Uchtdorf or however many points it takes to ensure he goes negative. His talk will absolutely be weaponized. I'll have to read it later to see what you mean, but there seems to always be one talk per GenCon that is weaponized for the following months by certain people both online and in th...
by jfro18
Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday evening Fall 2023
Replies: 30
Views: 9498

Re: NOMference Saturday evening Fall 2023

Why even have the evening session if they can't even fill up the time? At some point it just seems silly to make families plan their evening around an hour of talks that don't provide anything that the earlier two sessions couldn't.
by jfro18
Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:50 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !
Replies: 24
Views: 10968

Re: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !

RubinHighlander wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:46 pm
Looks like Rusty and Jeff won't even be attending this one in person, might deflate potential drama even more me thinks.
Pretty sure Nelson hurt his back trying to take out Tim Ballard in the middle of the night by himself.
by jfro18
Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: JS Papers accouncement by Oaks
Replies: 8
Views: 6306

Re: JS Papers accouncement by Oaks

So basically the Saints books but focused on making Joseph Smith look awesome while citing the JSP?
by jfro18
Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?
Replies: 30
Views: 13907

Re: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?

I know these courts are supposed to be confidential, but with someone who is high profile, it's getting out. They also have to let the stake and ward leaders know, so there is no way people are not going to find out he was ex'd. I'll be interested to see if WHY he was ex'd will be revealed. And if ...
by jfro18
Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?
Replies: 30
Views: 13907

Re: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?

I just saw John posted it on Twitter as well... hmm.
by jfro18
Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why the church fears James Huntsman
Replies: 7
Views: 6527

Re: Why the church fears James Huntsman

Can you imagine if this goes through and paves the way for a class action, for those of us who don't have enough to retire but would if we got those donations back? I know it's only a slim chance that would happen, but I'm holding out some hope. That's the other predicament I think this puts the ch...
by jfro18
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why the church fears James Huntsman
Replies: 7
Views: 6527

Re: Why the church fears James Huntsman

Of course, they are not concerned at all about the direct financial loss of $5 million. They suck that much out of their members every few minutes. What they fear is that Huntsman will win discovery. All the financial books would be open and their sins would be shouted from the rooftops. This is 10...
by jfro18
Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !
Replies: 24
Views: 10968

Re: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !

They just don't say anything of substance anymore, apart from obedience, shame for inadequate obedience, and leader adoration. Any actual information will always come through the newsroom with plenty of wiggle room for denial, removal or later modification. Yep - the last few times any real policy ...
by jfro18
Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !
Replies: 24
Views: 10968

Re: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !

My wishful thinking: 1. Garments are only required to be worn at the temple 2. Tithing should go to local charities that will actually use the money 3. An absolute smackdown of Tim Ballard to the point where there is nothing left to salvage My actual prediction: 1. A crap-ton of temples announced 2....
by jfro18
Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !
Replies: 24
Views: 10968

Re: General conference predictions or wishful thinking !

This is the first time that I expect absolutely nothing... which probably means they'll do something that makes headlines. But I expect they'll continue to play footsie with all sides of Mormonism while giving talks that some people think are denouncing DezNat types and DezNat types feel are a green...
by jfro18
Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How many plates?
Replies: 9
Views: 7047

Re: How many plates?

Regardless, I’m convinced the BoM could have been engraved on the plates with the right tools. I just don’t believe they had the right tools at the time it was allegedly written. I'm not even sure you could because of what Hagoth said regarding the dimensions. I think apologists need to expand the ...
by jfro18
Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:27 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How many plates?
Replies: 9
Views: 7047

Re: How many plates?

What's even crazier is to see apologists cite nonsense like the Prygi Tablets are proof of records on gold plates, not addressing that those three plates hold only TWO HUNDRED WORDS. In other words, the Book of Mormon would need like 1,000 plates just for the unsealed portion... It's so absurd that ...
by jfro18
Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Are you ready for Moroni Day?
Replies: 18
Views: 13977

Re: Are you ready for Moroni Day?

Is the first truly recorded, detailed account of this visit from the 1838 history? I know there are allusions to spiritual visitors, but I cant remember this account being in any detail before that. Which of course is amazing given how backdated all of it is, not that members care... i just saw a lo...
by jfro18
Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Garments always hanging out and it drives me nuts
Replies: 21
Views: 19193

Re: Garments always hanging out and it drives me nuts

If I could find a way to agitate people towards becoming more vocal about doing away with garments I would put some energy into it. They are the most unattractive clothing ever and the fact that the symbols are masonic should be the easiest sign that these are not from God. Now I have to think if th...
by jfro18
Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's the story with Tim Ballard?
Replies: 42
Views: 26008

Re: What's the story with Tim Ballard?

Man, I hope they don't just cluelessly gloss over this General Conference, but I fear the days of actually confronting real issues, not just boogeymen, are in the past. I fear the church has the same problem as the Republican party. The people at the top don't like the crazies but they need their n...
by jfro18
Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Garments always hanging out and it drives me nuts
Replies: 21
Views: 19193

Re: Garments always hanging out and it drives me nuts

I used to roll up my waistband to keep them from handing below my shorts but I was reprimanded for "modifying" them contrary to my covenant. I would pull them up as high as I could Urkle-style to make sure they didn't hang out the bottom of shorts and it was so uncomfortable but I was terrified tha...
by jfro18
Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Garments always hanging out and it drives me nuts
Replies: 21
Views: 19193

Garments always hanging out and it drives me nuts

I hate garments so much... I've hated them since the moment I was told that I'd have to wear them for the rest of my life which no one told me until the days before going to the temple with my wife. She knew and she did not tell me which sucked, but I couldn't say anything because I thought that's j...
by jfro18
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Welcome to the Tuesday Podcast Club!
Replies: 33
Views: 20447

Re: Welcome to the Tuesday Podcast Club!

This podcast was an interesting one to me because it both resonates with me obviously being in a position where I feel like I'm disappointing in any areas connected to the church, but also frustrating because it's really difficult for me to be 'OK' disappointing others. I think that's a constant str...
by jfro18
Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Welcome to the Tuesday Podcast Club!
Replies: 33
Views: 20447

Re: Welcome to the Tuesday Podcast Club!

I'm in - I'll listen tomorrow while everyone is at school and report back. :lol: