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You got a link to the BYU scholar? I don't know I'm so intrigued by this. Secondly (is that a word) Emma made that testimony (which both sides use ironically enough) at the end of her life. She hate Brother Brigham and was dead set on making her church (RLDS/CC) the true Church. The BoM obviously be...

So the CC temple is where Joey said it would be???

So yes I can see him having his old text book about the war if 1812 Cowdery peeking at the book about scattered tribes of Israel and the good ole Family Bible in the middle. However, there is nothing to support that. I was just curious if anyone knew something I didn't know about it. The Isiah not b...

So I'm reading Rough Rolling Stone (great book if you haven't read it) They have just established that Zion will be in Jackson County and we all know the rest about New Jerusalem​ and what not. Perhaps it's on the book and I haven't gotten there yet, but what happened??? I assume RLDS/CC owned much ...

Again I want to thank you for so eloquently pointing out your opinion and life experience. It's so much easier to accept and still respect the opinion when it's not angry. I did actually talk to both my parents and brother about what my little family is going through. It was surprisingly open and fr...

I love what you said. You speak to my soul! I have only been going through this process for a month or so, but I can't agree more. There has to be a way for us to find a middle ground. I strongly believe so many TBMs don't want to listen because we are rooted in anger or in their minds anti literatu...

Yeah I've done a lot of reading but I never came across that view of how Nephi called the brass plates a Bible. I guess he knew our time right???? Lol Do you think Joseph had a photographic memory? How did all those Isaiah chapters get in there? I've read lots of accounts how he never used the actua...

Weird question here.
So in 2Nephy where it talks about A Bible A Bible.....Yadda yadda
When was the Bible actually called the Bible???? Obviously in Joey's time it was called a Bible. But in 600BC was it called a Bible????

Zack I feel like you make my point. I fully recognize that I might feel different in 2 hours or 2 months and maybe never. However, you and a couple of you have artistically and eloquently stood your ground and kindly defended other people's views. I love it and it's through reading posts like that, ...

In CA my church had a carpet gym. Wicked rug burns!!!

Here's my point. You and I presume most of you/us know about the awful and untruthful things the Church has done. I get anger being part of the litany of emotions being felt in this forum. But anger doesn't help solve anything. My buddy went to all his friends and he just flat out was angry. His fri...

Thank you thank you to all your replies. I like peering through peep stones and your stories! Lol I do feel that the people with Orthodox LDS upbringings have the most backlash personally and struggle the most and are probably the most angry. My goal is never get there but who knows. Thanks again fo...

I think I live the church because of the good life I've had and can't deny it's involvement in my life. It taught me good principles on how to be a man (although some don't like gender roles). A mission fwd my development as a good member of society. If you read any self help books you can basically...

Wow 20/20hind that's great advice. I feel like my buddy who introduced/ruined/liberated my life did the same thing as you. He was done with the church and try to spread the word as fast as he can. Now his family is ashamed of him and his best friends from his mission just screen his calls. I was det...

I appreciate all the replies. Patience was never my strong suit. I'm very lucky to have a very open minded wife. She knows about my thoughts and muddled thinking. Her grandfather was a minister in a Non Denominational Church of Christ. I remember asking my super TBM brother-in-law what his Grandpa t...

A Rough Rolling Stone is awesome. You can actually see where both sides make claims and you get to sort of choose for yourself. There are countless quotes and paragraphs that I've read on multiple websites for and against the church. Excellent read and from what I know it's very very factual. Long r...

Thanks I like that. Didn't know where to rely post, just wanted to

No different than any other church?????
Then why should I seek anything different??
If they are all the same then it's just preference, assuming I want religion I'm my family's life then by that logic it just doesn't matter.
Well said......You also seem angry

So without dishing out too much disrespect it seems like all of you or most of you just kind of bash the Church. This is very new to me (1month or so) so in a way I am still processing a lot of this information. Let me clarify by saying I have read A LOT as I am sure some of you have too. My buddy s...