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by Zeezrom
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Patriarchal history and the much needed death of Mormonism and all Abrahamic religions
Replies: 27
Views: 5873

Patriarchal history and the much needed death of Mormonism and all Abrahamic religions

In my initiation into pagan beliefs I came across a book called “Mysteries of the Dark Moon : The healing power of the Dark Goddess”. I realize that most will not be into or accepting of the concept of the Matriarchy and worship of The Goddess and other goddesses but it’s important to know your hist...
by Zeezrom
Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: why don't they teach the City of Enoch in World Civ?
Replies: 8
Views: 2004

Re: why don't they teach the City of Enoch in World Civ?

To take another look at this, assuming you do believe that Enoch was a real city and you were teaching a world civ. class. HOw do you incorperate it into a lecture? Next, around 2500 BCE, we have the City of Enoch. Um, yeah. It was there, then it wasn't. We had a couple bible verses about it... *pa...
by Zeezrom
Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Different take on Brad Wilcox
Replies: 14
Views: 3103

Re: Different take on Brad Wilcox

The racism and sexism was blatant and is rightfully being called out. What isn't getting as much attention, but should be, is the very dangerous threatening language he used to induce thought-stopping techniques ("maybe we should ask a different question") and fear ("you will lose everything"). I k...
by Zeezrom
Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Different take on Brad Wilcox
Replies: 14
Views: 3103

Re: Different take on Brad Wilcox

I made my share of mistakes when I was TBM and I regret all of them but as far as I can remember, intentionally making people feel small or stupid was not one of them. You hit on my road to Damascus moment that led me to read the criticism of the church with an open mind. You see I did attack famil...
by Zeezrom
Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Different take on Brad Wilcox
Replies: 14
Views: 3103

Re: Different take on Brad Wilcox

I agree Alas. The church has an unsolvable problem on its hands. I once read “The Great Apostasy” by James E.Talmage. The central thesis that stuck with me is that the Roman Catholic Church cannot possibly be true because they flip-flopped too many times and because there were so many “Asshats” that...
by Zeezrom
Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Different take on Brad Wilcox
Replies: 14
Views: 3103

Different take on Brad Wilcox

Ok so I found the transcript and read the entire fireside talk by Brad Wilcox and……found myself underwhelmed by the hype. Basically I’m not seeing anything unorthodox or controversial from a TBM’s point of view. And maybe that’s the larger issue in itself. Some perspective on my point of view: born ...
by Zeezrom
Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 100115

Re: Fight The New Drug

This thread ruined my hope for humanity. Enjoy your porn you sick animals. Goodbye. This takes me back about 9 years to when I was a TBM. It was a miserable life being so sure of my rightness and demonizing everyone else who disagreed with my worldview. I almost have sympathy for Bonfire…it is very...
by Zeezrom
Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gendered God?
Replies: 5
Views: 1648

Gendered God?

My introduction to paganism through my wife has led me to realize the absurdness in some of my automatic assumptions growing up as a Mormon. It now seems such a ridiculous assumption that if there is a being capable of creating the entire universe: they would look just like a human and coincidentall...
by Zeezrom
Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: HOW did Joseph Smith write the BOM?
Replies: 20
Views: 5660

Re: HOW did Joseph Smith write the BOM?

A really good question that I and probably most TBMs wrestled with when our shelves broke. TSCC puts a lot of emphasis in presenting an either/or ultimatum: Either the Book of Mormon comes from God or an uneducated farm boy made it up. It sticks in your head so that anything beautiful or poetic you ...
by Zeezrom
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Snufferism is better
Replies: 19
Views: 5716

Re: Snufferism is better

What you describe Snuffer as saying sounds similar to most shamanic teachings that are found in almost all cultures and pre-date Christianity as well as all other organized religions. It’s unfortunate that somewhere along the line in the development of human civilization people discovered the power ...
by Zeezrom
Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Six onties of silver
Replies: 12
Views: 3883

Re: Six onties of silver

The plates had plenty of room to detail the entire monetary system, but the Nephites didn't record even "one hundredth" of the things Jesus said because there wasn't enough room on the plates. I guess they were a little fuzzy on priorities. The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Nephite Coinage. ...
by Zeezrom
Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Dr. Prophet Finally Speaks
Replies: 39
Views: 10069

Re: Dr. Prophet Finally Speaks

Wow this is an amazing test of hardcore Mormons and politics. In my experience (including myself personally in a former life) the most hardcore TBMs tend to be to the far right of the political spectrum and millennialist. So here we have the FP encouraging the “the mark of the beast”??!! Lol wonder ...
by Zeezrom
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Six onties of silver
Replies: 12
Views: 3883

Re: Six onties of silver

Let me risk validating Book of Mormon apologetics in one tiny way. The money system and payment of six Onties gives an idea of how much Zeezrom offered Alma to recant. In Alma 11:3 judges get a senum of silver for one day of labor. In verses 11 through 13 we find that an onti equals 7 senums of sil...
by Zeezrom
Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Six onties of silver
Replies: 12
Views: 3883

Re: Six onties of silver

Yep. The currency is so stupid - it's mentioned briefly and then it's gone... then he uses it to replace farthing in the Sermon on the Mount with senine but then left the Aramaic word Raca and the Roman law of going a mile in there as if the Nephites would know those. Never made sense to me to use ...
by Zeezrom
Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Six onties of silver
Replies: 12
Views: 3883

Six onties of silver

Had to share this comment inspired by the Reddit board. Joseph Smith invents a whole complicated monetary system invented by the Nephites just to convey that Zeezrom’s bribe to Amulek was a substantial sum of money. Then he never mentions their money again Lol. Then Jesus comes in the story and he j...
by Zeezrom
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: You are not welcome
Replies: 18
Views: 5356

Re: You are not welcome

After watching seven younger siblings all get married in the temple, my youngest brother is finally getting married. And for the first time, with no TR, I am not welcome to see my brother be married. I talked to my brother a few months ago and gently suggested he consider doing a civil ceremony fir...
by Zeezrom
Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jfro, I have another project idea for you.
Replies: 18
Views: 5421

Re: Jfro, I have another project idea for you.

Oh Miracle of Forgiveness lol. I remember confessing all my sins to my bishop as a young man and being told to go buy the book and read it. Hated how everything fun in life was defined as a mortal sin. Although I did think it was cool the part about how Cain is still out there roaming the Earth as a...
by Zeezrom
Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith’s brilliance
Replies: 16
Views: 5121

Re: Joseph Smith’s brilliance

To follow up on Ghost’s comment about teachings that would be nice if they were true. I still like the idea of the Telestial Kingdom. Think about it, a glory that surpasses human understanding where you get to live forever and not be bound by church business like those in the Celestial Kingdom. And ...
by Zeezrom
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith’s brilliance
Replies: 16
Views: 5121

Re: Joseph Smith’s brilliance

Love reading all these comments!! You guys are all smarter theologians than any LDS Clergy I’ve heard speak no matter how eloquent and “inspired” they sound. Palerider is absolutely right that it makes no sense when JS made up random names for stars and planets like Kolob and claimed Abraham taught ...
by Zeezrom
Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My ward building smells bad! Like real bad...
Replies: 7
Views: 2080

Re: My ward building smells bad! Like real bad...

Stupid cheap ass church with multi-billion dollar portfolio trying to save a buck on HVAC and professional cleaning during a pandemic. Yeah that’s exactly how God would rule his/her kingdom on Earth if he/she/it gave a shit about micromanaging human affairs. Rant over Lol