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by Jeffret
Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lavina Vs. Avraham
Replies: 4
Views: 1419

Re: Lavina Vs. Avraham

Totally understandable. Avraham has had friends in high places, which always makes a big difference, especially in an organization like the Church. He's been supporting the Church's end-times theology. Lavina committed a sin worse than murder -- questioning the patriarchy. And being a woman. What ma...
by Jeffret
Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard
Replies: 14
Views: 2406

Re: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard

Dehlin has a fresh video about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVtkI5UBWJk

And an Salt Lake Tribute article about the Sean Reyes connection here: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2023/11/03/ ... es-denies/
by Jeffret
Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?
Replies: 30
Views: 14033

Re: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?

Let's not forget MRB's history of fraud going all the way back to 1962: https://www.sec.gov/news/digest/1962/dig072462.pdf It goes back earlier than that. In the video that AllieOop posted previously, Lynn Packer meticulously details to Bill Reel and RFM Russell Ballard's long history of fraudulent...
by Jeffret
Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 36 new missions created - why?
Replies: 16
Views: 3254

Re: 36 new missions created - why?

More opportunities to call mission presidents?
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Your tithing dollars at work!
Replies: 19
Views: 2940

Re: Your tithing dollars at work!

Voluntary organization is not government since there is no monopoly on violence. So is it the case that everyone gets to be equally violent, then? (Perhaps more seriously, or less) Is this proposal for a voluntary organization somehow related to libertarian principles? Or ... how does it relate to ...
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Your tithing dollars at work!
Replies: 19
Views: 2940

Re: Your tithing dollars at work!

To balance the haves with the have-nots I would explain that supporting the homeless provides greater security, the revenue returns dividends, having a third-party handle court or corrections responsibilities engenders peace at home, or publishing forums, reddit, news, or edutainment encourages kno...
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 94632

Re: Fight The New Drug

Joe doesn't keep it organized so it's hard to find all of them -- it's a running tally. Here's the latest case he shared: https://www.joemygod.com/2023/10/florida-prison-chaplain-arrested-in-child-sex-sting/ He keeps the tally on Twitter (which I'm not very fond of, especially after Musk took it ove...
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 31952

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I finished the second episode and I continue to be dazed by how broad Thom Harrison's influence is across the entire spectrum of fringe Mormonism, including Rod Meldrum and the Heartland BoM people, and disturbed by how respected he and his followers are as therapists. One of the panelists mentione...
by Jeffret
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 24
Views: 4909

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

There is something to be said regarding countenances. When a person sins their behavior changes, or rather their spirit that moves them was distracted elsewhere since the last time you observed them so they are not interacting with you on the same conscious level. This concept, or something very si...
by Jeffret
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 31952

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

One observation I would like to make, that was not commented on, is that many of Thom Harrison's visions seem to be deeply grounded in the teachings of Joseph Fielding Smith. Several of the excerpts they played were built upon JFS's theology and fleshed out by Harrison, often in very dark and distu...
by Jeffret
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 24
Views: 4909

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

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by Jeffret
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 94632

Re: Fight The New Drug

And what is amazing, is that some of the people who commit the worst sexual excesses, are closely associated with churches, i.e., Jimmy Swaggert, or Jim Bakker, or a number of Catholic priests, or Jerry Falwell and wife. Or the prophet Joseph, who appears to have been a man of strong sexual appetit...
by Jeffret
Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 94632

Re: Fight The New Drug

Maybe I am missing something or maybe something is getting lost in translation. But these recent posts by Bonfire make no sense to me. They don't even seam like something written by a TBM. It comes across more like AI generated nonsense than a coherent point about anything. Please correct me if I a...
by Jeffret
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doomsday family from Arizona
Replies: 12
Views: 1382

Re: Doomsday family from Arizona

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:49 am
Have you noticed that all of these crazy stories share a common word? It may not be central to the story, but it seems to always be there somewhere. That word is Idaho. Why is that?
It's more Arizona / Utah / Idaho. Which share a different common word.
by Jeffret
Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Post Modernist Mormons?
Replies: 11
Views: 2190

Re: Post Modernist Mormons?

Bonfire wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:48 pm
Sex is a death ritual
Oooh ... that's kind of a kinky way to do it.
by Jeffret
Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 94632

Re: Fight The New Drug

Bonfire wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:38 pm
Do you think they do this to harness terror?
I wouldn't put it quite that way, but yeah, pretty much.
by Jeffret
Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doomsday family from Arizona
Replies: 12
Views: 1382

Re: Doomsday family from Arizona

Oh, thank goodness! I feared for the worst.
by Jeffret
Fri Oct 27, 2023 11:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 94632

Re: Fight The New Drug

John Dehlin's comments in a recent Mormon Stories episode regarding "Visions of Glory" and the problems around it really caught my attention. They weren't exactly related to this discussion, though FtND was mentioned concerning their connections to Thom Harrison. John posed the question, Why does th...
by Jeffret
Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 31952

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

blazerb wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:51 am
This has left me speechless. I wonder if Thom Harrison has anything to say about these disciples. It seems irresponsible not to speak up if people are using your story, that you chose to share, to hurt people.
I don't know that they're behaving in contrast to Thom's teachings or beliefs.