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And therein lies the crux of this NOM dilemma. If faking it to making it works, no harm done. If faking it to making it sucks the life out of you there is harm. I agree, but I do have a hard time faking it sometimes. It's like how long do we wait until we tell our kids we don't believe in Santa Cla...

I mean, really. Mormons can't tolerate a sinner who drinks a cup of tea, regardless of any amount of good he does, but they don't bat an eye when their own leaders get caught committing large scale SEC and IRS fraud. Their concept of morality has been completely turned upside down. Sorry, Stuck, I'...

Don't hinge a conflict on a damn beverage that doesn't stay hot. We had a talk and she wants me to stop drinking coffee so I can be "worthy" to baptize my son in about a year. I have agreed to do so and I think that has helped our relationship so far. However, I don't really like the other caffeine...

Congrats! Way to stand your ground. Mixed faith marriages are difficult right?! Anyway, it takes a certain amount of give and take to make it work. Like for myself, I just sort of agreed that I would stop drinking coffee so that I might be able to be "worthy" to baptize my son in a year. But I don't...

Sounds like the "Village" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Village_(2004_film)

Thanks everyone for the great responses! Being in a mixed faith marriage for me is like "Marriage on a tightrope". I should probably listen to that podcast more. Anyway, it can be very stressful and frustrating sometimes. Yes I should re-assure her that I am not going to drink alcohol (she is concer...

Are you saying that coffee, alcohol in moderation and "bad" movies lead open marriages? I'm not sure I follow... Or are we just wallowing in a slippery slope fallacy? Sorry, I guess I'm saying that it seems that once someone loses their religion that there is a shift as to what is right or wrong fo...

... but there probably is a shift in morality. Like drinking coffee or drinking alcohol reponsibly and being less strict about movie ratings. ... There is absolutely nothing "immoral" about the things mentioned in the above sentence/quote. (Yes I know that logic (or simple math) won't work when tal...

Do you guys have any examples of families who've remained intact and led great lives after the church? Yes. Many. Though, greatness is subjective and the dual axes matrix of stayed/left and intact/expired has greatness in every quadrant. I will say this, coffee is awesome but it damn sure ain't wor...

So wife and I had a conversation this morning about the church. She found out I was still drinking coffee and that I had lied to one of my sons about it. She just had a friend leave the church and she has others that she knows in her family who've left the church and feels like that a lot of them en...

I am on the cleaning crew in our ward. We do it every 3rd month. This is our month and I was only able to do it 1x this month due to being out of town and such. So yes the poor people in charge are stuck with the brunt of it and it's a lot of work for just a couple of people. It would be nice if som...

So far the cost for hosting has been NOMinal and has been absorbed by a few aNOMymous apostates whom may or may not be offsetting their tithes and offerings to the LDS church.

Thanks guys

Yeah, I feel like a lot of you are "kindred" spirits. So it's nice to have a place to come and commiserate or discuss Mormon issues or problems. And get advice on how to navigate life in a mixed faith marriage and so forth. And how to navigate life outside of Mormonism. Hopefully Nom can stay around...

That is a great find/connection Deacon. It explains why the Missourians were so against the Mormons being there. It would be interesting to get more info on that.

Are we our brothers' keepers? In other words, are we responsible to look after the well-being of our neighbors as we seek to earn our daily bread? The Savior's Golden Rule says we are. Satan says we are not. Tempted of Satan, some have followed the example of Cain. They covet property and then sin ...

Good find RR! Boy further evidence of their fraud. Yet we will certainly not hear any confessions or apologies right?

I went to Les Miserables last night in Salt Lake. I really like the song Do you hear the people sing. And reading the lyrics reminds me of those of us who have changed our beliefs or have left the church. Sometimes I feel like it would be cool to start a revolution. But I guess it's already started ...

Just because I don't believe in God or Jesus anymore, doesn't mean I don't have moral standards.

Just because I don't feel as guilty as I did before when I sin, doesn't mean I don't want to be a better person.

That is interesting! Sounds like what's happening to Mormonism. With new knowledge and the internet the people are leaving the faith especially the millenials and gen z kids. Yet in poorer countries like Africa and South America the church is still going strong perhaps because they lack access to th...

We just went to the open house of a new temple in Utah. Afterwards my wife said with emotion that her favorite part was sitting as a family in the celestial room because she is hoping that that will be like us in heaven after we die. Boy the church has a strong hold on members and families about thi...