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I understand what you're saying alas and Reuben, but he still hasn't seen Jesus face to face. So how does he believe/convince himself that he has? Or does he hear Jesus voices in his head? That's some heavy cog dis to truly believe you're an apostle of Jesus Christ but still haven't seen him. Is th...

I disagree that Ballard knows he is lying. People are capable of rationalizing their behavior, no matter how evil, into something good. I used to be a facilatator in a therapist led support group for men who had sexually abused their daughters. When they were new to the group they would explain why ...

Wait... You had a black bishop!?!?!?! I mean, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and in fact it's kind of cool! That just totally surprises me. Two weeks ago we had a black bishop called. He is divorced and married to a white woman. What is this world coming to! :D I think it is supper co...

I was talking to a close friend about why we don't pray to Heavenly Mother. She suggested that it is because Heavenly Father is the priesthood holder. I pondered this for a while. Has anybody ever heard a similar explanation, or know of a the source for such an idea? I think this is a case of confi...

The first time I read through the D&C, I kept thinking, "How convient for Joseph Smith." There are several places where "God" instructs some poor sucker to give Joseph money, or do what Joseph wants. Not just this one with Martin Harris and 132 with threatening Emma, but several of them. Prophecy co...

I am fascinated by the discussion. Perhaps my biggest problem with putting much stock in anecdotes of a clearly distressed or injured brain is how clearly we know our perceptions are fallible. I know I've mentioned this book somewhere before but have you had the chance to read "My stroke of insight...

OK, now the discussion is getting more serious, so maybe I will share more. I am ...a skeptical believer, or something. There is something going on that science cannot explain, * yet*. But some things can be explained as things like sleep paralysis, and some things can be explained as money making f...

Part of the problem of why people do not share first hand accounts is they do not like being scoffed at. And until a person knows that the audience is safe, they keep their mouths shut. In a religious setting people are careful to use the word spirit rather than ghost, when they are talking about a ...

When Elder Packer interviewed me as a prospective member of Brigham Young University's faculty in 1976, he explained: "I have a hard time with historians because they idolize the truth. The truth is not uplifting; it destroys. I could tell most of the secretaries in the church office building that ...

But, see he has his freedom of speech. He can refer to someone however he wants. This idea demonstrates that what he wants is the freedom to speak without consequences. One of those consequences is that others may disagree with him and criticize him for his speech. It's really not his business to d...

This thought process going on in this thread is all the proof needed that the church is not true. Seriously, how weird is this discussion? And the TBM trope that we shouldnt think about it much because there is not much revealed about it is bogus because BY and JS talked about it a lot. It is an im...

Your family will be together for eternity. Mormonism the only religion that says you can't be with your family forever!! Unless the brethren perform a temple ceremony where they give permission to God for your family to be together. :o A few odd things about family sealings: Joseph Smith was never ...

I listened to a bit of the podcast but not most. As I contemplate on the topic, my thoughts turn to the men who call themselves prophets, seers, and revelators. They are all older men. Most have served for many years. What is it that these men want more than anything? To leave a legacy of their gre...

Thanks for the replies. I find it interesting that other Christians expect me to run to put the Bible higher than I did before, because you know, that's actually "God's word." And honestly talking to an evangelical about the bible is just about the worst. I always expected to remain "Christian" but...

He just needs to call it So Called Mormon Discussions.

Wonder how much of our tithing money went into paying for that ruling. They lost in court several times, so the only way I can see that they would win is greasing someone's palm.

When some more healing time passes, she will probably realize there is no loss because that jerk is not CK material to begin with. And in Mormon doctrine, if he isn't going to CK, then she would be assigned to someone else. But I really think that should be worded that she gets to choose someone els...

I think the terms "liberal" and "conservative" are symptoms of a false thought continuum. I think they are fragile constructs which shatter when first principles are used to build more complex logical constructs. Neither of them fit within either classical philosophies such as stoicism or Aristotel...

you bring up a couple of issues, one being why leaving Mormonism tends to make people more liberal in their political views, and the other about transgender as a mental illness. So, first, the political thing. When psychologists study conservatives, they find a cluster of traits. They value loyalty,...

One thing I don't get with Mr. Norton is his obsession with Mitt Romney. I think it's very brash and unethical to single out someone like Romney and film him in the temple; Mike's reasoning for singling out Romney is that Mike doesn't want the POTUS, the "Ruler Of The Free World" to be someone who'...

And your family isn't horrified and angry, and telling you you will go to hell when you get bored with NOM and drop out.