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- Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:09 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: 2015 Worlds Without End article, relevant to "not hiding anything from anybody": Thoughts?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 12366
Re: 2015 Worlds Without End article, relevant to "not hiding anything from anybody": Thoughts?
I understand what you're saying alas and Reuben, but he still hasn't seen Jesus face to face. So how does he believe/convince himself that he has? Or does he hear Jesus voices in his head? That's some heavy cog dis to truly believe you're an apostle of Jesus Christ but still haven't seen him. Is th...
- Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:03 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: 2015 Worlds Without End article, relevant to "not hiding anything from anybody": Thoughts?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 12366
Re: 2015 Worlds Without End article, relevant to "not hiding anything from anybody": Thoughts?
I disagree that Ballard knows he is lying. People are capable of rationalizing their behavior, no matter how evil, into something good. I used to be a facilatator in a therapist led support group for men who had sexually abused their daughters. When they were new to the group they would explain why ...
- Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:11 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Bishop change
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13108
Re: Bishop change
Wait... You had a black bishop!?!?!?! I mean, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and in fact it's kind of cool! That just totally surprises me. Two weeks ago we had a black bishop called. He is divorced and married to a white woman. What is this world coming to! :D I think it is supper co...
- Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:08 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Pray to the priesthood holder???
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7517
Re: Pray to the priesthood holder???
I was talking to a close friend about why we don't pray to Heavenly Mother. She suggested that it is because Heavenly Father is the priesthood holder. I pondered this for a while. Has anybody ever heard a similar explanation, or know of a the source for such an idea? I think this is a case of confi...
- Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:57 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Why is D&C 19 not a bigger deal?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 11126
Re: Why is D&C 19 not a bigger deal?
The first time I read through the D&C, I kept thinking, "How convient for Joseph Smith." There are several places where "God" instructs some poor sucker to give Joseph money, or do what Joseph wants. Not just this one with Martin Harris and 132 with threatening Emma, but several of them. Prophecy co...
- Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Brushes with "the other side"?
- Replies: 209
- Views: 159216
Re: Brushes with "the other side"?
I am fascinated by the discussion. Perhaps my biggest problem with putting much stock in anecdotes of a clearly distressed or injured brain is how clearly we know our perceptions are fallible. I know I've mentioned this book somewhere before but have you had the chance to read "My stroke of insight...
- Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:24 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Brushes with "the other side"?
- Replies: 209
- Views: 159216
Re: Brushes with "the other side"?
OK, now the discussion is getting more serious, so maybe I will share more. I am ...a skeptical believer, or something. There is something going on that science cannot explain, * yet*. But some things can be explained as things like sleep paralysis, and some things can be explained as money making f...
- Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:53 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Brushes with "the other side"?
- Replies: 209
- Views: 159216
Re: Brushes with "the other side"?
Part of the problem of why people do not share first hand accounts is they do not like being scoffed at. And until a person knows that the audience is safe, they keep their mouths shut. In a religious setting people are careful to use the word spirit rather than ghost, when they are talking about a ...
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:09 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Elder Ballard: "There has been no attempt on the part of the Church leaders to try to hide anything from anybody"
- Replies: 58
- Views: 38823
Re: Elder Ballard: "There has been no attempt on the part of the Church leaders to try to hide anything from anybody"
When Elder Packer interviewed me as a prospective member of Brigham Young University's faculty in 1976, he explained: "I have a hard time with historians because they idolize the truth. The truth is not uplifting; it destroys. I could tell most of the secretaries in the church office building that ...
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:16 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Ben Shapiro and transgender mental illness
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16297
Re: Ben Shapiro and transgender mental illness
But, see he has his freedom of speech. He can refer to someone however he wants. This idea demonstrates that what he wants is the freedom to speak without consequences. One of those consequences is that others may disagree with him and criticize him for his speech. It's really not his business to d...
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Celestial Procreation?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 20159
Re: Celestial Procreation?
This thought process going on in this thread is all the proof needed that the church is not true. Seriously, how weird is this discussion? And the TBM trope that we shouldnt think about it much because there is not much revealed about it is bogus because BY and JS talked about it a lot. It is an im...
- Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:16 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Forgotten Whoppers
- Replies: 49
- Views: 29464
Re: Forgotten Whoppers
Your family will be together for eternity. Mormonism the only religion that says you can't be with your family forever!! Unless the brethren perform a temple ceremony where they give permission to God for your family to be together. :o A few odd things about family sealings: Joseph Smith was never ...
- Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:03 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New RFM Podcast--Making Doctrine Out of Nothing at All
- Replies: 15
- Views: 9827
Re: New RFM Podcast--Making Doctrine Out of Nothing at All
I listened to a bit of the podcast but not most. As I contemplate on the topic, my thoughts turn to the men who call themselves prophets, seers, and revelators. They are all older men. Most have served for many years. What is it that these men want more than anything? To leave a legacy of their gre...
- Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mainstream Christianity.
- Replies: 24
- Views: 12775
Re: Mainstream Christianity.
Thanks for the replies. I find it interesting that other Christians expect me to run to put the Bible higher than I did before, because you know, that's actually "God's word." And honestly talking to an evangelical about the bible is just about the worst. I always expected to remain "Christian" but...
- Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:20 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Church Sends Letter to Bill Reel re Mormon Discussions
- Replies: 38
- Views: 26319
Re: Church Sends Letter to Bill Reel re Mormon Discussions
He just needs to call it So Called Mormon Discussions.
Wonder how much of our tithing money went into paying for that ruling. They lost in court several times, so the only way I can see that they would win is greasing someone's palm.
Wonder how much of our tithing money went into paying for that ruling. They lost in court several times, so the only way I can see that they would win is greasing someone's palm.
- Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:11 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Sealing Cancellation
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12674
Re: Sealing Cancellation
When some more healing time passes, she will probably realize there is no loss because that jerk is not CK material to begin with. And in Mormon doctrine, if he isn't going to CK, then she would be assigned to someone else. But I really think that should be worded that she gets to choose someone els...
- Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:07 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Ben Shapiro and transgender mental illness
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16297
Re: Ben Shapiro and transgender mental illness
I think the terms "liberal" and "conservative" are symptoms of a false thought continuum. I think they are fragile constructs which shatter when first principles are used to build more complex logical constructs. Neither of them fit within either classical philosophies such as stoicism or Aristotel...
- Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:56 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Ben Shapiro and transgender mental illness
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16297
Re: Ben Shapiro and transgender mental illness
you bring up a couple of issues, one being why leaving Mormonism tends to make people more liberal in their political views, and the other about transgender as a mental illness. So, first, the political thing. When psychologists study conservatives, they find a cluster of traits. They value loyalty,...
- Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:42 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What about NewNameNoah?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 19671
Re: What about NewNameNoah?
One thing I don't get with Mr. Norton is his obsession with Mitt Romney. I think it's very brash and unethical to single out someone like Romney and film him in the temple; Mike's reasoning for singling out Romney is that Mike doesn't want the POTUS, the "Ruler Of The Free World" to be someone who'...
- Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:30 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Mormonism is a broken record on both sides of the vinyl
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5208
Re: Mormonism is a broken record on both sides of the vinyl
And your family isn't horrified and angry, and telling you you will go to hell when you get bored with NOM and drop out.