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- Mon May 15, 2017 9:40 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: One True Church Claim: 20 Year Phase Out Plan
- Replies: 45
- Views: 30003
Re: One True Church Claim: 20 Year Phase Out Plan
What is so compelling about the church if it is not actually the "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased" (D&C 1:30) ? I was an obedient, diligent Mormon because I thought that if the LDS church was TRUE , then any sacrifice for it ...
- Mon May 15, 2017 6:30 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: One True Church Claim: 20 Year Phase Out Plan
- Replies: 45
- Views: 30003
Re: One True Church Claim: 20 Year Phase Out Plan
The case against exclusivity hinges on 2 basic arguments: Mercy/Grace and the simple math of humanity. Math is fun so let’s start there. Here’s a fine BBC article on the subject: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16870579 our important quote is: “There are currently seven billion people alive today a...
- Mon May 15, 2017 4:32 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: One True Church Claim: 20 Year Phase Out Plan
- Replies: 45
- Views: 30003
Re: One True Church Claim: 20 Year Phase Out Plan
What's interesting is this is a natural progression of the "we're not weird" movement. Over the years the "truth is where you find it" movement has naturally allowed for the idea of exclusive truth to pale.
- Thu May 11, 2017 8:40 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: LDS Church and BSA part ways
- Replies: 46
- Views: 30002
Re: LDS Church and BSA part ways
Here's the question:
Does Scouting drive young men out of the church?
If yes, well, fixed that.
If no....oops?
Does Scouting drive young men out of the church?
If yes, well, fixed that.
If no....oops?
- Thu May 11, 2017 9:44 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: LDS Church and BSA part ways
- Replies: 46
- Views: 30002
Re: LDS Church and BSA part ways
Friends of Scouting will continue...but if you child is 14 will you pay in anymore? I've been YMP and I never encountered a young man who was gung-ho to wear his uniform to Mutual. The Trib has an article on this and in there they mention that at 14 girls come into a young man's social circle and th...
- Tue May 09, 2017 9:50 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Many Book of Mormon Geographies
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15955
Re: Many Book of Mormon Geographies
The geography doesn't fit anywhere unless you close your eyes in prayer...The hard twisting of "facts" supporting the BoM either shows great imagination or flailing desperation; depends on the author.
- Tue May 09, 2017 9:46 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What to do with temple ceremony clothes
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6489
Re: What to do with temple ceremony clothes
You will still need the clothes many years in the future for a traditional Mormon burial. One of the reasons I resigned was to put to bed this issue. Although my wife promised not to bury me in temple gear I just believe that the pressure will be too great and she'll cave--love you sweetie, just th...
- Tue May 09, 2017 6:08 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Was Joseph Smith martyred, murdered, or removed from his place?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 31749
Re: Was Joseph Smith martyred, murdered, or removed from his place?
The beauty of the question is that it identifies the three major philosophical groups.
- Sun May 07, 2017 6:03 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: L'il Help?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1735
L'il Help?
Am I confused or does https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SP6X-Q65 list Joseph with 57 marriages?
Click on Joseph and then scroll down in the left window and Marriages (57) shows up.
Click on Joseph and then scroll down in the left window and Marriages (57) shows up.
- Mon May 01, 2017 1:52 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Quiet Death of the Old School
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7419
Re: The Quiet Death of the Old School
In the summer I'm a motorcycle safety instructor. One of the mantras we have is: "You see what you look for". Example: When I was a news shooter for the local ABC affiliate I was at the scene of a motorcycle/car collision, one of the classic "car left turns into path of motorcycle" ones. The lady wh...
- Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:41 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Hurt and angry
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5588
Re: Hurt and angry
I'm going to go with "be of good cheer." We learn by doing. Often we bump our heads--or get whacked on the head--but we should use the opportunity to learn to duck! Don't let the Church continue to control you, letting it make you feel anything other than wisdom from your misadventure is giving it m...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:06 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Quiet Death of the Old School
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7419
Re: The Quiet Death of the Old School
By their fruits you will know them; and what are the fruits of the Church if not the people? I think we may underestimate the power of the grassroots of the church. The Priesthood ban was lifted in part because of coming lawsuits but also because the people of the Church weren’t willing to defend it...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:42 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Quiet Death of the Old School
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7419
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:50 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Quiet Death of the Old School
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7419
The Quiet Death of the Old School
I had an interesting conversation once with a fairly well know LDS scholar and the issue arose about what happens after death to a marriage where a good, covenant keeping, celestial LDS woman is married (and deeply in love with) a good, honest, kind, charitable non-member. The answer surprised me an...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:42 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What can you openly not believe in?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 18398
Re: What can you openly not believe in?
I like the 10 years historical authenticity of the BoM. Anyone with any knowledge of any science can't really debate DNA. You can see what % neanderthal you have in your DNA surely we can see if the Natives have Jewish DNA. There is a sub on Reddit with an African tribe that has Jewish decent about...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:38 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Taught v. Learned
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3160
Taught v. Learned
One of the most unsettling issues for folks going through a faith transition is when we present an issue to a fellow Latter-day Saint and they answer with “You didn’t know that?” or “I’ve always known that.” Which is used as a conversation killer; it’s kind of a spiritual “what, are you stupid or so...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:25 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Plans, and plans, and then....
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12598
Re: Plans, and plans, and then....
Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven....
- Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:44 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Baptism Gift Idea?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9995
Re: Baptism Gift Idea?
Gift of the Holy Ghost ain't enough?
- Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:42 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Earliest Book of Mormon People
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12423
Re: Earliest Book of Mormon People
Mulekites.
- Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:51 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What can you openly not believe in?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 18398
Re: What can you openly not believe in?
I would offer that given statements that "The Book of Mormon isn't a historical document" there's an opening to simply place it in the pile with Noah, Jonah, and other "allegorical" stories there is a growing opening to let the Book of Mormon veracity slip. This is a slowly growing section of the ac...