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- Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:31 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Real Estate done wrong
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1236
Re: Real Estate done wrong
They love control in SLC, even to their own detriment.
- Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:03 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: An update from The Netherlands
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4710
Re: An update from The Netherlands
Good to hear from you, sorry to hear about your dads health. Peter Bleakly is saying that in the UK the activity rate is at about 15%. Do you have anything to show what the activity rate is in the Netherlands? My assumption is that it's worse than the UK, which had a stronghold at one time, but I do...
- Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:45 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: More Conference Sessions added
- Replies: 28
- Views: 8635
Re: More Conference Sessions added
On one hand, I give any highly visible organization credit for quickly reversing a mistake. It takes guts. (cue Randy Travis music ...) But on the other hand, they insist on invoking God Almighty. Let's be serious - these aren't serious theologians. To imply God actually had a hand in meeting schedu...
- Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:28 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is Trek gone for good? (I hope!)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4743
Re: Is Trek gone for good? (I hope!)
My aunt & uncle finished their 2nd mission to Martin's Cove in 2020, which was cut short because of Covid, so it's still happening. Funny story: DW and I were Ma/Pa twice (because I wasn't smart enough to learn better after one time). Before the second one the neighboring Stake leaders gave us tips ...
- Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:22 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2887
Re: The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
I saw some of your comments over there Yobispo. Exmormons eventually grow up to become former Mormons. That’s why the big fuss around the planet thing. Exmo’s like to point and say “see! They’re dishonest look at that ______!” Former Mormons could care less what the church is doing. They’ve moved o...
- Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:21 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2887
Re: The Bigger Lie in the FAQ - Women in the Church
I agree on all points, especially how the exmo world blew up over the last week. It's probably the only time I've predicted something correctly, that the essay would be back up and this time the people on the church's side are sitting back and getting a good chuckle watching exmos make something out...
- Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:34 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What Q15 would do as Prophet
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1892
Re: What Q15 would do as Prophet
There is some strong wishful thinking in that lineup. They're all at least in the middle, but more on the fundy side of middle. The Silver Fox's "doubts your doubts" and "unruly children" comments far outweigh his barely-almost-apology. The top 2 are literal fundamentalists, and I'd throw in Ballard...
- Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:25 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Beer vs Diet Coke
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4212
Re: Beer vs Diet Coke
The WoW recommends drinking beer. Says nothing about drinking Diet Coke. The WoW was my first big rabbit hole issue, and when I finally allowed myself to think about it I was surprised to find out that it does actually recommend beer. It also says to use wine for the sacrament. TSCC's ability to si...
- Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:30 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: First evidence of actual active members
- Replies: 19
- Views: 5707
Re: First evidence of actual active members
This is the first real indication of the state of active members globally. https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-05-13/church-area-utah-area-blesses-benefits-global-church-213172 Someone on ldschurchgrowth said 1 million members in Utah are active, the other million are inactive a...
- Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:16 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4599
Re: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes
Glad you posted this. DW and I pulled them up (maybe YouTube?) about 2 years ago while on a raod trip. We both had listened to them many times, especially in the mission field. I heard the talks with new ears, but I could still hear it with my old ears, too, and I found myself feeling a fondness for...
- Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:41 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled
- Replies: 26
- Views: 7962
Re: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled
I'd like to direct my comment to the young men on the board... sorry, couldn't help it.
My takeaway is that I've already heard 2 TBMs share this news in a positive, excited voice. Mormons: the only people who are happy to get less of what they love.
My takeaway is that I've already heard 2 TBMs share this news in a positive, excited voice. Mormons: the only people who are happy to get less of what they love.
- Mon May 10, 2021 9:20 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Fiona Givens and BYU
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6769
Re: Fiona Givens and BYU
My barely relevant Givens/Fluhman story --- I attended one of those private firesides in the Bay Area back in 2014-2015 where the Givens spoke with Spencer Fluhman, the current Exec Director of the Maxwell Institute. Most of Fiona's talk was about finding Mother in Heaven in literature and the scrip...
- Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:22 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
- Replies: 82
- Views: 24401
Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
This one is particularly baffling. She doesn't bash the church. She doesn't encourage people to leave. Her local leaders haven't tried to engage with her before pushing for a court (I don't care what they call it). Her local leaders aren't local. Church discipline is supposed to originate locally, b...
- Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The 2020 numbers
- Replies: 35
- Views: 12218
Re: The 2020 numbers
Well, if I know the church, and I do know the church, I know that these numbers are fudged in some way. The real question is: how fudged are they? My personal experience is that I know of far more resignations in my social circle this year than any other year since my disaffection in 2012. Covid to...
- Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:41 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Another Lawsuit
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4606
Re: Another Lawsuit
At some point one of these suits will stick. If it was anything other than religion, the fraudulent company in question would be settling suits, going out of business or hopefully changing their ways. But for some reason in this country you can lie and steal in the name of freedom of religion. Bear ...
- Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: General Konference Predictions
- Replies: 52
- Views: 14618
Re: General Konference Predictions
Word on the street is the Pear of Great Price is getting a make-over. New headings above chapters, and possibly adding the family proclamation as "scripture". Complete word of mouth speculations. Really hope they do not completely entrench themselves against the LGBTQ community by canonizing the fa...
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:34 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: General Konference Predictions
- Replies: 52
- Views: 14618
Re: General Konference Predictions
2 things they won't mention at all:
1. The essays
2. Mark Hofmann
1. The essays
2. Mark Hofmann
- Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:34 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Netflix doco - Murder amoung the Mormons
- Replies: 37
- Views: 12538
Re: Netflix doco - Murder amoung the Mormons
I generally think that most Mormons will consider this movie to be spiritual pornography. As interesting as it might be, there's virtually no way for believers to have a good feeling about this even if the actual bomber was caught and put in prison for life. "spiritual pornography" - I hate that te...
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:51 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: John Gee and the GAEL
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6033
- Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:24 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Nelson Gets Vaccinated
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6152
Re: Nelson Gets Vaccinated
Yes, I'm glad that they are setting the example. Yes, as 70+ year old folks they need the protection more than a younger person. Yes, the anti-vaxx folks need a smack in the head from Dear Leader. But I can't help this nagging little irritation that they got it first. With all of their resources, in...