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- Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:24 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Are youth really leaving?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 16292
Re: Are youth really leaving?
I'm in my mid-30s. My DW and I didn't announce our exit from the church publicly at all - just family, a few friends, and of course those few in our ward (we're outside of UT) that knew us before we left. Your question is hard to answer because stepping away from Mormonism is either close to apostas...
- Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:16 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The Letter.
- Replies: 35
- Views: 15282
Re: The Letter.
I simply responded with “thanks for your concerns. It means a lot to me to know you care and love me.” That was it. No need to spend unnecessary emotional energy defining my faith or lack thereof. I’d suggest responding back with the same. This. Probably won't be productive to get into the details ...
- Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Burned over district & Joseph's search for truth
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9123
Re: Burned over district & Joseph's search for truth
Dan Vogel discussed his research on this issue in a recent interview with Rick Bennett. Here is a link to the first of their discussions. https://gospeltangents.com/2019/06/first-vision-conflicts/ All the best, Bob Was going to post this - it's a short listen and goes through all of this very caref...
- Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:50 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Burned over district & Joseph's search for truth
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9123
Burned over district & Joseph's search for truth
Wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction to (any) published research on this... I've heard that there's a possibility of revisionist history as to the "burned over district"-episode of US history being the catalyst for Joseph Jr.'s soul searching and quest for truth. Anyone know anyth...
- Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:11 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings
- Replies: 17
- Views: 8352
Re: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings
Joseph Jr.'s stay among Swedenborgites and theological discussion of the afterlife. This sounds new to me. Could you tell us more about this stay? If I remember correctly, it’s talked about in the Mormon Wellness Podcast episode 013. She mentions that there’s an entry in Joseph’s journal perhaps of...
- Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:44 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings
- Replies: 17
- Views: 8352
What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings
Think this would do well on HBO? A series that rivals Game of Thrones in character development and film quality, about the beginnings of Mormonism. Begins with the Joseph Sr. and Lucy Mack frontier home. The character of Joseph Sr. and Lucy are as depicted in Rough Stone Rolling. Based on raw Mormon...
- Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Artful Dodger of Mormon Apologetics
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5700
Re: The Artful Dodger of Mormon Apologetics
Loved it consiglieri. My blood boils when I hear about these apologists attacking Bill Reel for his "priestcraft" in profiting off his podcast. Especially the BYU-employed ones. Don't know how many people know this, but BYU equalizes the salaries of their academics relative to the rest of the academ...
- Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:32 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Near Death
- Replies: 19
- Views: 12049
Re: Near Death
These scientists need to get things together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSBaq3vAeY This guy has something to say, and it appears matter IS affected by consciousness. I think Brian Cox is somehow equating ghosts with 'matter'. What if there is something completely different? Cox is grounded i...
- Tue May 21, 2019 7:57 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: David O. McKay Biography (Prince) - Prophets, Seers, Revelators
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1863
Re: David O. McKay Biography (Prince) - Prophets, Seers, Revelators
This might not be exactly what you are looking for, but it's a passage from Quinn's The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (p. 363): By the mid-1950s a change was underway in Mormonism that profoundly affected its political influence. The hierarchy and church publications encouraged an unprecede...
- Mon May 20, 2019 8:34 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: David O. McKay Biography (Prince) - Prophets, Seers, Revelators
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1863
David O. McKay Biography (Prince) - Prophets, Seers, Revelators
I remember hearing in a podcast with either Greg Prince being interviewed or D Michael Quinn (maybe both of them said this). But it was said that David O. McKay changed the LDS paradigm such that the top 15 would be given the designation - prophets, seers, and revelators - whereas before then this w...
- Wed May 08, 2019 1:30 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: D&C 132 - Celestial Kingdom loophole?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7617
Re: D&C 132 - Celestial Kingdom loophole?
According to Preach My Gospel, the holy spirit of promise is the role of the HG in ratifying an ordinance: To be sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise means that the Holy Ghost confirms that righteous acts, ordinances, and covenants are acceptable to God. The Holy Spirit of Promise testifies to the F...
- Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:29 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thoughts on tithing
- Replies: 41
- Views: 21064
Re: Thoughts on tithing
Listen to Bokovoy's interview with John Dehlin. He shuts down, with Old Testament authority, the idea of an institutionalized tithing process. I also agree with the previous posts that talk about surplus. I think that's a pretty easy conclusion to come to with LDS scripture. Last thing, the church d...
- Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New RFM podcast on Nelson's LGBT flip-flop is really good stuff
- Replies: 22
- Views: 10751
Re: New RFM podcast on Nelson's LGBT flip-flop is really good stuff
So glad you liked it. The stars really came into alignment for this podcast. I think it may be the best podcast I've ever done. (Which may or may not be saying something depending on your point of view.) Consiglieri - the Greg Prince stuff was awesome at the end. Don't remember if this was stated i...
- Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "He" and "Him"
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2865
"He" and "Him"
Anyone notice how Mormons love to refer to Jesus as "He" and "Him," and always with capitalization of the H? I've been inactive for about a year now and when these easter messages flood my FB feed, it seems so weird to me now. Who are these easter testimonies for? Mormons or non-Mormons? If it's the...
- Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:27 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Utah Valley - Restaurants
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1576
Utah Valley - Restaurants
Hey NOMs. I'm going to be in Orem the next few days for a family members' funeral. Was hoping to grab some lunch tomorrow (Sunday) at Kohinoor in Orem, but alas, they're closed on Sundays. Can anyone recommend some good Indian or Thai restaurants in Orem or Provo that are open on Sundays? If there's...
- Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:42 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
- Replies: 51
- Views: 20794
Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Red Ryder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:38 amThis means RMN is not healthy and has a poor chance of living another year.
Oaks is positioning himself to take over the throne, marry Wendy, and plan his world religious dominance. Right after changing the name of the church back to Mormon!
Oaks is still a douche bag.
- Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:46 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Signs of church in Apostasy
- Replies: 21
- Views: 10327
Re: Signs of church in Apostasy
Does anyone have any links to a good write-up/article about these BY issues? I knew he was a monster but clearly hadn't seen the details beyond polygamy and treatment of blacks/adam-god/etc. I don't know of a clear and accessible write-up on BY's wealth jfro18. I was introduced to it via some podca...
- Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Western vs. Eastern religions
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6777
Re: Western vs. Eastern religions
This is awesome Hagoth. I find eastern religion fascinating. If you haven't seen this book, I recommend checking it out. "The Fifth Way" by David Brisbin. Interesting angle in bringing in "eastern" insight into Jesus' life. The author talks about how Jesus was more likely influenced by eastern than ...
- Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:15 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: FAIR is FOUL
- Replies: 20
- Views: 9447
- Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:42 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Signs of church in Apostasy
- Replies: 21
- Views: 10327
Re: Signs of church in Apostasy
From Samuel Smith's Wikipedia page regarding his demise: Smith's official cause of death was "bilious fever", which is an archaic and inexact term for any disease accompanied by a fever and the evacuation of bile, such as typhoid fever or malaria. Lucy Mack Smith later suggested Smith had become ill...