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Re: New Here
Would love to hear more about your decision to resign, and about Margarita.
- Wed May 10, 2017 3:51 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Was Joseph Smith martyred, murdered, or removed from his place?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 31985
Re: Was Joseph Smith martyred, murdered, or removed from his place?
My current thoughts are that it was frontier justice. First of all Give It Time. . . . I smile at your avatar! Nice! Smith's big offense was his secret polygamy practice. After having denied it for years, Smith's practice was exposed by some dissident Mormons in the Nauvoo Expositor. Its publishers...
- Wed May 10, 2017 3:28 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: BYU Prof: People who leave Church deficient in "character"
- Replies: 33
- Views: 15610
Re: BYU Prof: People who leave Church deficient in "character"
I saw it, and my thought about people such as this reminds me very much of a gyroscope, always spinning around at a frantic pace, but not really going anywhere. My personal belief in Christ has actually grown since walking away. I would state it takes strong character to walk away from an lying and ...
- Mon May 08, 2017 8:18 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How the heck do you ladies do it?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8345
Re: How the heck do you ladies do it?
It's pretty clear you can lead a man to the mall, but you can't make him shop.
- Sun May 07, 2017 6:00 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I'm Serving With A New Bishopric Now
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9304
Re: I'm Serving With A New Bishopric Now
Keep in mind, you were called by the stake and set apart by the stake, and will eventually be released by the stake. It's normal to keep the ES on for smooth transitions, and this happens many times even when new stake presidencies are called, as well as area 70s. Deep breaths after that because the...
- Fri May 05, 2017 7:29 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Curious "Word of Wisdom" Question
- Replies: 20
- Views: 10184
Re: Curious "Word of Wisdom" Question
That very question came up in a Bishop Training meeting, and the SP looked at his first counselor who is a doctor, who shook his head no. The SP said, "There's your answer."
That might be a stake president roulette question, but that was the response from one.
That might be a stake president roulette question, but that was the response from one.
- Fri May 05, 2017 7:18 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What would make you change your mind?
- Replies: 59
- Views: 34920
Re: What would make you change your mind?
Writing me a check for all of the tithing I paid for 40 years. If you forgive the fox for stealing your chickens, he'll then steal your sheep.
In short. . . . . it will never happen.
In short. . . . . it will never happen.
- Fri May 05, 2017 7:07 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: It's that time of the every-other-year again
- Replies: 43
- Views: 32938
Re: It's that time of the every-other-year again
I received a call from the Executive Secretary saying the rolls indicated I was due to come in and have my recommend renewed. I told him I did not see the need to do that given I didn't see any reason to go to the temple. He asked why I felt that way, and I said, "I've already been through for mysel...
- Fri May 05, 2017 6:27 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I sent a 52 page letter to the 1st Presidency: This was their response. PART 1
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4934
Re: I sent a 52 page letter to the 1st Presidency: This was their response. PART 1
“Members of the Church are discouraged from making telephone calls or writing letters to General Authorities about doctrinal issues or personal matters. With an ever-increasing Church membership, responding personally to these inquiries presents an almost insurmountable task and would make it diffi...
- Wed May 03, 2017 7:00 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Joseph Smith Papers
- Replies: 25
- Views: 23068
Re: Joseph Smith Papers
I would point out the papers openly discuss controversial issues with the practice polygamy, using terms like "conjugal relations" (xxv) and "polyandrous marriages" (xxvii), and refuse to shy away from facts that the Church has in the past ignored. They admit that Smith likely consummated some, but ...
- Wed May 03, 2017 6:42 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Can you please answer this question?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 19026
Re: Can you please answer this question?
BIC, 5th generation Mormon. Did everything in a ward and stake including being on the HC for 14 years and in four bishoprics. My DW hit for the cycle in women's calling, Ward RSP, Ward PP, Ward YWP, and Stake RSP. We walked and although we are both still on the records, have no reason or desire to r...
- Wed May 03, 2017 1:33 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: 2017 General Conference Autopsy Report
- Replies: 20
- Views: 18063
- Wed May 03, 2017 1:25 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Why shouldn't I resign?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14506
Re: Why shouldn't I resign?
I have come to the conclusion that if I was summoned for a court of love I would probably send a pizza delivery boy in my place with a stack of pizza and a note saying "Thanks for thinking about me." Having sat in HC meetings, and courts of love for 14 years of church service, having pizza delivere...
- Wed May 03, 2017 1:02 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Lightning Survey: Before the 2014 Plural Marriage Essay, did you know that Joseph Smith practiced it HIMSELF?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 20826
Re: Lightning Survey: Before the 2014 Plural Marriage Essay, did you know that Joseph Smith practiced it HIMSELF?
Yes, I had figured it out prior to the essay. However, I spent decades teaching via the D&C and seminary manuals otherwise. When confronted in SS my response was that I was sure this was done by women in the temple AFTER his death. Can't believe how wrong I was, and how many people I need to apologi...
- Mon May 01, 2017 2:55 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Replacing the New Order Mormon
- Replies: 59
- Views: 78593
Re: Replacing the New Order Mormon
The main difference that I see is that old NOMs were trying to find a place for themselves within the church where they could serve and somehow be understood and accepted, and that they could focus on what they still found to be "true" about the church. New NOMs have more or less given up on that p...
- Mon May 01, 2017 2:52 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Hopi burying weapons??
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17572
Re: Hopi burying weapons??
I can only find references to this story on Mormon and Mormon-ish websites. You are absolutely correct. The link provided quotes an older book which was written by a LDS member, I have the book in my collection and it does not make reference to where the information had been gathered. In studying t...
- Mon May 01, 2017 2:31 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Next time an apologist throws the Bible under the bus...
- Replies: 27
- Views: 17353
Re: Next time an apologist throws the Bible under the bus...
When I first discovered all of the issues with the BOM I quickly transferred that thought process to "are there problems like this in the Bible? " Which I think is a natural thought and why apologists go there. I always think of the scene in the West Wing where President Bartlet schools regarding t...
- Mon May 01, 2017 2:12 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Quiet Death of the Old School
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7430
Re: The Quiet Death of the Old School
I asked that question to a patriarch (I had two in the family), he basically said there is degrees of glory within the Celestial Kingdom and therefore there would be a place for couples like that. He also said the "worthy" one would be able to visit family in the higher order, but can return. I aske...
- Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:34 pm
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: What was your first crack
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22505
Re: What was your first crack
This was not my first crack. . . . but as you might tell from reading this, it was responsible for quite a few cracks in various other people. The bishop in our small ward in Idaho was called when he was very young. He immediately caused issues in the ward by calling his mother as the RSP, his fathe...
- Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:12 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: ‘Trust gap’ hounds the Mormon church, research shows - SLT
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4351
Re: ‘Trust gap’ hounds the Mormon church, research shows - SLT
I have tried to imagine what the LDS church would have been like if they had been as open as possible at least starting with B. H. Roberts. . . I've often thought about BH Roberts and his discussion with the Q15, and his statement: “In light of this evidence, there can be no doubt as to the possess...