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They seem to be trying to buddy up to Tea Party style fundamentalist Evangelicals for the strength in numbers. That means a package deal that lumps pro-life together with anti-LGBT and pro-guns. We're seeing Christianity in this country fighting (and winning) more "religious liberty." However, "rel...

I always assumed that abortion was not murder because it was allowable in certain circumstances (rape, incest). It wouldn't make sense to allow a rape victim to kill her healthy baby after birth, so abortion must not be the same as murder. That's how I understood it as a TBM. I think that the prohib...

Something about this really struck a nerve with the TBM wife. She hates this campaign and the fact that RMN didn't use his time to unambiguously straighten out the anti-maskers. Personally, I feel like I am the victim of a denial-of-service attack when it comes to Facebook right now. I'm just stayin...

Assuming you were still a TBM, what changes to mission rules would have make your mission better? The rule that would have made my mission better: Only go on a mission if you want to. I'm pretty shy and talking to strangers all day was a pretty miserable experience. It got easier but it never got f...

The mission experience is objectively speaking a full-on cult experience. The best two years for me? Hell no. I was being manipulated 24/7 for two years. It was an abuse of my dignity as a human being. Were there benefits? Sure. #1 benefit is that I learned exactly what it is like to be under cult m...

* Except... "The book" actually says that they put doors in both the top and bottom of the dish-barges, because after being "tossed about" they wouldn't know which way was up, and they would have to open the doors to see which would let in air or water. Yeah: Jaradite barges are one of the first sh...

Will post more later after I finish, but the Book of Abraham is beyond dead at this point between Hauglid, Ritner, and now Bokovoy. Yep, it's a good one. Biblical scholarship is fascinating and it is nice to see it applied in this way. The Book of Abraham is as false as the day is long. It's kind o...

No talks from Dallin Oaks on homosexuality/transgender evils? Does that mean we'll get two from him in six months to balance out?

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Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:57 pm

Holy Fetch.... a Fetch drive by!

How You doing? Stop by more often and give us an update.

I really doing great. I've been successful at finding community outside of the church and that's really the key to moving on I think.

I don't have anything insightful to contribute but I thought I'd leave this here for everyone's enjoyment: https://www.theonion.com/sumerians-look ... 1819571221

I can't tell you what you should do, that's something you are going to have to decide for yourself. I can share my experience, however. I had a moment of clarity in my disaffection process where I realized that if I pretended to go with the program so that people would love me, then they really woul...

I seem to recall that from a doctrinal point of view, the entire Presidency of the Seventy could ordain a new apostle who could restart the quorum. Once he filled all fifteen slots, the articles of incorporation could kick in from the Corporation of the President and reconstitute the organization. ...

The church's position on this today is pretty simple and straightforward:

If it increases faith in and obedience to the leaders, your dream is a revelation from God. If not, it is just a dream.

Fetchface, I am in the same position as you, still doing the 1 hour thing as a way to keep the peace and help wrestle kids so she isn't an abandoned widow in sacrament meeting. How did you handle the garment transition? For me that has been one of the last hurdles. I was quite furious with the chur...

I think that was a good choice. If you go with their program, they are just going to try to get you to do more and more. Next thing you know, they want you to be EQP or something like that. There was a moment in my FC when tensions were high with the wife and I just decided that my wife was either g...

Interesting, apparently they committed the big sin of saying the obviously racist part of the Book of Mormon out loud. You're supposed to pretend that part doesn't exist!

How many times have I been told that people want me at church? I like to call them on it and tell them, no, they don't want me at church. They want someone who wears my skin but who in fact is a completely different person than I am. I almost want to show up one day and be myself, raise my hand and ...

If you look at the history of cult leaders, you will notice that many of them are extremely reckless and take big risks and end up getting killed in the end. It seems to be that this is a common personality trait of cult leaders. Some even purposely organize a mass suicide with themselves included. ...

The president of the church has the power to dispose of any church property in any way he sees fit, so he can use it for any purpose he wants to, including gifting it to himself. At least, that's how the articles of incorporation read to me. Of course, gifting himself $100B would mean paying a lot o...

I specifically wear jeans to screw with the "unwritten order of things." Plus, I just feel good in my casual clothes. I have spent a lot of time finding jeans that fit me really well. I wear long-sleeved colored collared shirts (untucked). I've probably got the most expensive shoes in the whole chap...