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by deacon blues
Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
Replies: 8
Views: 1250

Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History

The Nauvoo Expositer incident is an example of the importance of examining all sides of the story. When I read Joseph Smith's History of the Church it said the Nauvoo Expositor was a "slanderous and libelous paper." That was considered an complete explanation in my 1970's Seminary and Ricks College ...
by deacon blues
Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lavina Vs. Avraham
Replies: 4
Views: 1388

Re: Lavina Vs. Avraham

I morn for Lavina though I didn't know her personally, only through her writings. Bishop roulette seems to have an extra element, one's sex. :cry:
by deacon blues
Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mom would have been a great bishop!
Replies: 3
Views: 743

Mom would have been a great bishop!

I was reflecting on my dear, departed mother and the thought occurred to me how she was a great listener and counselor. She was always busy in Relief Society, often serving in the presidencies of the ward and stake. Then it occurred to me: she would have been a great bishop. The bishops I had were O...
by deacon blues
Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 24
Views: 4660

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

The entire "countenance" concept has got to be one of the best examples of confirmation bias that there is. How many of us found out the truth about LDS-Inc. and quit, yet stayed "under cover" and didn't tell our believing family members for extended periods of time? How many of us were told our "c...
by deacon blues
Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Post Modernist Mormons?
Replies: 11
Views: 2087

Re: Post Modernist Mormons?

Generally the Q15 condemn postmodernism, but if it keeps one in the Church they turn a blind eye to it, ;) or ignore it. What does that mean? It means they will tolerate just about anything that doesn't directly challenge their authority. Or their very naïve attitude about patriarchy or sexual orie...
by deacon blues
Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:17 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: New House Speaker is young earth creationist.
Replies: 0
Views: 1934

New House Speaker is young earth creationist.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/house-speaker-johnson-believes-creation-museum-is-pointing-people-to-the-truth- The link apparently doesn't work. Try googling 'House Speaker Johnson believes creation museum.' I think young earth creationists can teach their beliefs as a religion, but not as his...
by deacon blues
Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Post Modernist Mormons?
Replies: 11
Views: 2087

Post Modernist Mormons?

When my shelf broke I momentarily considered a post modernistic view: "Mormonism is false but it does some good, and gives meaning to people, so perhaps I could take its claims metaphorically. :shock: I just couldn't do it. :? A belief in a literal truth/reality was something I couldn't give up. 8-)...
by deacon blues
Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Reintroduction and Star Wars Analogy
Replies: 4
Views: 4662

Re: Reintroduction and Star Wars Analogy

For me there were several steps, but each one was memorable. I revisit them in my memory and probably re-edit them a little each time. but I also kept a diary, which helps me go back to my impressions at the time.
by deacon blues
Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Salacious Bible Stories in School board meeting
Replies: 6
Views: 4916

Re: Salacious Bible Stories in School board meeting

Hmmm. Jesus's body was missing from the tomb, but Joseph's was still in the grave nearly 100 years later? There's some 'spaining to do. :roll:
by deacon blues
Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Most significant spiritual failures.
Replies: 15
Views: 6770

Re: Most significant spiritual failures.

I'm trying to imagine a TBM explanation: "Maybe the flames on the sword are meant to give your bosom a burning sensation as the sword is plunged (literally or metaphorically?) into the subjects (literal or spiritual) bosom." :shock: Of course Joseph could just be borrowing a bible image to impress a...
by deacon blues
Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Salacious Bible Stories in School board meeting
Replies: 6
Views: 4916

Re: Salacious Bible Stories in School board meeting

Man, that guy let the Bible off easy. He left out stuff like praising David's army for dashing babies heads against the rocks, and this gem from Ezekiel: "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." Not to mention Song of...
by deacon blues
Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:45 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elevation Emotion/Oxytocin
Replies: 5
Views: 6829

Re: Elevation Emotion/Oxytocin

I recall feeling Elevation Emotion when I read Les Miserables and LOTR, but the BOM just didn't do it for me. I thought I was unworthy. Full disclosure: I also felt it when I read Atlas Shrugged, which looking back, is less uplifting, but when I read it it moved me deeply. The Thomas Jefferson examp...
by deacon blues
Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Great Surprise--National Geographic
Replies: 7
Views: 5293

Re: Great Surprise--National Geographic

Thanks for the links to the podcasts. they were very helpful. And thanks for the careful reading of my posts. My Nov. 2023 article date was wrong- actually Nov. 2013 was right. :roll: Sorry about the carelessness. I was thinking how some, not all nuanced TBM apologists now view the DNA issue. Michae...
by deacon blues
Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Salacious Bible Stories in School board meeting
Replies: 6
Views: 4916

Salacious Bible Stories in School board meeting

I just saw a wacky, funny Youtube post. Some comedian gets up in a School board meeting and reads some of the nasty stories from the Bible. It may be totally staged, I can't tell. But it cracked me up. :lol: (1) Comedian Trolls 'Moms For Liberty' And They CAN'T Handle It - YouTube www.youtube.com ht...
by deacon blues
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Great Surprise--National Geographic
Replies: 7
Views: 5293

Re: Great Surprise--National Geographic

Great memory Jfro. I'm listening to the podcast and around the 30 minute mark they discuss that very National Geographic article. 8-)
The irony is staggering- BOM apologist: "24,000 year old DNA supports the Book of Mormon?!?" WTH. :roll:
by deacon blues
Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Great Surprise--National Geographic
Replies: 7
Views: 5293

Great Surprise--National Geographic

I'm no geneticist, but this National Geographic article by Brian Handwerk (Nov. 22, 2023) caught my eye. It explains new studies showing: "Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people linked to the Middle East and Europe, rather than entirely from East Asians as previousl...
by deacon blues
Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 84036

Re: Fight The New Drug

Hagoth, please don't tease with tantalizing tidbits of neuropsych research without giving sources where we can find such succulent morsels. Oh my great God of wonder, research that suggests that the opposite of religious thinking is spirituality? I am aware of studies looking at brain areas that ac...
by deacon blues
Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?
Replies: 9
Views: 5220

Re: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?

I think Pres. Nelson ponderized this thing over and over, from 1995 or so. Being corrected in General Conf. by Pres. Hinckley probably made him ponderize it more. When he was given the "power" to do something about it, it had become ingrained into his psyche, and he was unable to nuance his thoughts...
by deacon blues
Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elevation Emotion/Oxytocin
Replies: 5
Views: 6829

Elevation Emotion/Oxytocin

I copied this from a Wikipedia article about Jonathan Haidt: Moral elevation Main article: Elevation (emotion) With Sara Algoe, Haidt argued that exposure to stories about moral beauty (the opposite of moral disgust) cause a common set of responses, including warm, loving feelings, calmness, and a d...
by deacon blues
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prophecy and Modern times
Replies: 13
Views: 6613

Re: Prophecy and Modern times

I remember the aftermath of the 1967 war. The chatter in Rexburg was that it was "a sign of the times," and that the Second Coming was not far off- say about the year 2000. :o