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by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why are callings kept 'secret' until announced?
Replies: 10
Views: 5989

Re: Why are callings kept 'secret' until announced?

Also, by spilling the beans it kinda ruins the magic for the congregation (and not just the deliciousness for the person called). You see this when r/exmormon salivates over the thought of leaks of new apostolic appointments, the ability to announce beforehand, "It's gonna be Dave." tarnishes the my...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 489
Views: 305001

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Is there actually such a thing as store-bought eggnog that is actually worth spiking? I've never had homemade eggnog, so I don't have a frame of reference verses store bought options. I enjoy the store bought stuff well enough, not enough that if it was year round it would always be in the fridge b...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy and later sexual repression
Replies: 127
Views: 58027

Re: Polygamy and later sexual repression

Another idea (which I stole from someone on this board): Maybe S.W. Kimball was asexual, and he just thought everyone else should think, act, walk, talk and (NOT!) have sex just like him. There is similar thinking out there concerning certain GAs comments about homosexuality being a choice. That th...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Save My Soul, brother TBM
Replies: 21
Views: 10684

Re: Save My Soul, brother TBM

The fun thing about the LDS concept about the line of authority is you don't have to excuse Joseph you have to excuse every single LDS prophet. So you can argue that Joseph didn't sleep with multiple women, but Brigham did so you still have to defend it as moral behavior. You can argue that Joseph d...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Came out to my mom
Replies: 11
Views: 6836

Re: Came out to my mom

My mom told my DW that I was under the influence of Satan and should go to the Bishop so he could exorcise the evil spirit from me :lol: I think the truly sad thing is the people who make those kind of comments don't see how completely and utterly insane they come across when they make them. It's j...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Marriage Vows
Replies: 14
Views: 12281

Re: Marriage Vows

I am curious about the "forsaking all others" and vows of loyalty - is there anything in the LDS marriage vow against adultery? anything about loyalty? I honestly can't remember what was said during the sealing ceremony. It's what happens when you do something once, are deprived of sleep because yo...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 489
Views: 305001

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Some Evan Williams Egg Nog. I'm kinda wishing I'd just spiked my own instead of buying a premix.
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Discovering Church Discipline
Replies: 6
Views: 3527

Re: Discovering Church Discipline

Why do they still do it other than to shame the person who was ex'd? There are various circumlocutions, particularly if you want to appeal to doctrine, but the heart of the issue is control. It controls the disciplined and it controls the flock by explicitly or implicitly telling them the disciplin...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy and later sexual repression
Replies: 127
Views: 58027

Re: Polygamy and later sexual repression

Oh yeh Alas,...this repressive sexual culture, and the escalation of repression into massive amounts of shame dished out by the LDS church, has done a number on women. Its messed up marriages, its messed up something that could and should be wonderful, and its who knows how far the ripples with tra...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Resign or Get Ex’d
Replies: 21
Views: 10304

Re: Resign or Get Ex’d

So you get a knock on your door and two gentlemen hand you a letter stating theire will be a church court for your apostate ways. Would you go, resign, or just ignore it. I'd ask them why they are holding a church court for someone who is not a member (II ruin so many of these hypotheticals by bein...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Leah Remini and Mormonism
Replies: 7
Views: 4553

Re: Leah Remini and Mormonism

My wife will entirely ignore this and my conservative relatives will point to this as clear evidence that the church is being persecuted for their righteousness. And this would be the case even if positive presentations on Mormonism were given equal time The idea that you can slip in some talking h...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If you could go back...
Replies: 19
Views: 7340

Re: If you could go back...

No. I find the question to be on par with, "If you could believe in Santa Claus again, would you?" Also what would prevent me from just immediately having another faith crisis? You'd have to change the way I think and furthermore restrict my ability to think in those ways in the future, you're basic...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Leah Remini and Mormonism
Replies: 7
Views: 4553

Re: Leah Remini and Mormonism

Her show really is geared towards people who are not in any of these cults. She's spreading the word to simply stay out. But I fear that it won't help anyone in the cult to take steps out. And worse, it may push some of them to entrench more deeply. I'd say that is accurate. The show is about letti...
by Dravin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy and later sexual repression
Replies: 127
Views: 58027

Re: Polygamy and later sexual repression

that is how that goes down ladies.... two can play this game. Good Lord. Red Ryder's I skipped over as soon as I realized it was some weird historical horror bodice-ripper post and I moved on. Yours... got into my head like some sort brain parasite and I'm still trying to shake it. It made me run h...
by Dravin
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:17 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 489
Views: 305001

Re: What are you drinking right now?

This was a good beer. I dont really like much beer, but this one was really good. Firestone makes a good Helles. It's proof that a beer doesn't have to be heavily hopped to be delicious (not that I made such arguments but it is a common enough one among craft beer fans either explicitly or implicit...
by Dravin
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Alcohol on Sundays
Replies: 7
Views: 4864

Re: Alcohol on Sundays

Why is alcohol not sold on Sundays in Utah. I believe many other states do the same thing, but what is the origins of that law? Moral panic. Blue laws , are about promoting 'proper' sabbath adherence either by banning or restricting activities. Some of these laws have been around long enough that t...
by Dravin
Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Connection to Christianity Waning...
Replies: 27
Views: 14650

Re: Connection to Christianity Waning...

I lost Satan, King Arthur, and Robin Hood in the same way. And Santa Clause, come to think of it. I still kinda love Santa Clause, and I still live by many of the words of Jesus. Nothing wrong with having a fondness for fictional characters or for finding value in the words and actions attributed t...
by Dravin
Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If God really mattered to God that everyone believe...
Replies: 6
Views: 3737

Re: If God really mattered to God that everyone believe...

Interesting insight from Mrs. Hagoth this morning: "If it really mattered to God that everyone believes in Mormonism wouldn't he have arranged for multiple Joseph Smiths to show up all over the globe telling the same story?" If you want accuracy and consistency why bother with prophets? Why introdu...
by Dravin
Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Connection to Christianity Waning...
Replies: 27
Views: 14650

Re: Connection to Christianity Waning...

I lost Christianity when I lost Mormonism. The things that were telling me that Joseph Smith was a prophet were the same things telling me Jesus was the Christ. Once you stop operating from the starting assumption of Jesus being the Christ then Christianity just sort of naturally breaks down because...
by Dravin
Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Coffee
Replies: 22
Views: 11973

Re: Coffee

No Tof wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:06 pm
In my experience, really bitter coffee is a product of over extraction, if you do everything else right. If you under extract you have a slightly sour taste.
That's my understanding. A handy guide to troubleshooting your coffee is this.