NOM

FinallyFree, I love that "the glory of God is intelligence." Concept. I had not seen it in that exact light before. So gaining intelligence (not experience, obedience, or mastery) is the goal. We are doing CFM as well. Not as DW's insistence but on th the t of my girls. We raised them young as TBM a...

Mine expires at the end of this month. Outside of a few youth baptism trips, a sealing for one of my past YM, and one last session to see the new video when it came out several years ago, I have not gone. Surprisingly my DW hasn't had one for a year. IDK what we will do. I just got released from my ...

Loved it. I'm a donor. You deserve more.

Hagoth wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:59 pm

I'd love to show up in a robe and sandals. Just like Jesus. And see how that goes down.

Bwahahaha if they tried to kick you out

My semi-active but believing BIL got me on their podcast about a year ago. After that series on Mormonism I asked him if he listened. He said he purposefully avoided it because he knows how thorough they are in their research. He asked if I did, and I said yes. He asked what I thought. I told him th...

AZF it is good to see an update from you. It sounds like you have navigated this the best for your situation. Each of us here has different complicating factors that weigh in the decision to continue in quiet active unbelief, or slow fade on your terms (as much as possible), or the abrupt bandaid ri...

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More importantly, when are you going to be flying south for another visit?
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I know right?!!

We are not doing as much business with that vendor so IDK if work will take me down anytime soon. Maybe a personal trip is in order. The cold is really making me crave some AZ weather!

Haha, back to the slow grind. We are both mentally out but the kids and community make it complicated. She hasn't had a TR in a year and keeps saying maybe she should get one. Mine runs out in 3 months. I have no desire to go back, but not sure I want to be excluded from family stuff either. Slow fa...

For years, the answer was no. Now it is yes. She is now a NOM as well, just not on NOM. We are both active, calling having, non believing members stuck in the generational and community cult like community.

But aren't we all stuck in similar communities we dont love fully?!

Turtles all the way down.
Gods all the way down.
One eternal round.
We had parents in heaven.
We will become gods.
The chicken and the egg.

All different ways to say we just dont know but we want a simple answer.

The FSOY booklet talks about avoid an obsession of sex in thought. How can anyone do that with this non stop talking about sex and porn. Create problem. Tell them how horribly damaging the problem is. Convince them they are useless if they experience the problem. Tell them you are the only solution ...

Red Ryder wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:25 am

I love BJ videos!

OME (Oh My Elohim), RR you would!

LOL.

So many of us have been there. The reality is that most of us are either somewhere still stuck in the middle with family ties, or spent way too long there before an eventual exit. I am the former. DW was mad and sceptical at first. She now is nearly as non believing as I am, yet we still go, hold ca...

This makes me absolutely sick and furious. I know he is just a man, called by other fallible men. That is always the excuse. Yet where is the discernment? He was approved by the first presidency. All those poor kids and parents in his ward. Why do we continue to allow leaders of any gender to be alo...

I am listening to the Last Podcast on the Left series on Mormonism. It is funny and sadly too true. They are finishing up with the WJ story. They played a recording of his confession that he is not the prophet and was never the prophet. It took a fall from grace and a life sentence to get the truth....

OMG Oaks. You are every 4 letter word, and an @$$.

Some good changes I guess for the YW. Sister Villager was pissed. Took the girls shopping during the session. She came home and went on an obscenity laced tirade. Says it is the last straw.

Probably not though.

I dont have a one liner. I would not ever want to have a one liner, as this conversation is just too significant and complicated to properly convey my feelings or experience.

Palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:25 pm

My one-liner is, "I don't think you're prepared to have this conversation with me..."

I love this one!

Many years ago I woke up one day, walked to the bathroom in my G’s and caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror and thought “oh God! wtf am I wearing?” A few years ago I woke up one day, walked to the bathroom in my colorful boxers and caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror and thought “I’m creat...

jfro18 wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:31 pm

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"Either God set Joseph Smith up to look like the biggest fraud ever or Joseph Smith made it all up."

Bwahahahaha.

That is awesome!