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I don’t really want to be an atheist, problem is I don’t see anything I can specifically attribute to an intervening god. No amount of prayer or pleading ever made a difference. Sure I can find some coincidences that maybe I could attribute to god, but really whats the point. A lost toy found here o...

Its probably an extension of the march to a more conservative “boring” church over the last 50 years. I can say as a child in the 60’s we went out to dinner after church all the time. Living in Utah I hope all the Mormons observe a strict sabbath day. Don’t need them crowding me on my weekend activi...

When I was A child Satan scared the s…t out of me. Nights I could not sleep wondering if he was under the bed. All from images church leaders put in my head. What a stupid concept to teach children


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Why does there have to be this idea that one gender has to be in charge. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. In a enlightened society power at all levels would be shared. Those best suited or qualified would fill position based on qualifications not gender.


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I don’t think because something is old it is necessarily better or correct. I am in favor of equality in the here and now because it is the right thing to do. Not sure I need to go back 6000 years to prove my point.


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After the Brad Wilcox fiasco I was thinking what can the church do to turn the PR machine around and get some good press. Here is my list of things that would get them all sorts of positive press. 1. Apologize for past racist behavior. Don't have to come out and say Brigham was a racist, but go furt...

I agree he is only teaches what he was taught by the system and believes, or at least I think he believes. However the way he said it turns my stomach. When I was TBM we had a stake president who spoke with the same condescending tone and mannerisms. He manipulate people then cried at the end to sea...

I wonder in general what percentage of converts stick with it? If retention drops so low as I suspect it will in years to come will missionaries even go out.


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Not voices but I use to have things pop in my head. Use to think they were some kind of message from beyond till they proved disastrous when I followed them. My new relationship with such things is I ignore them. If you are an angel, demon, extra terrestrial, inter dimensional traveler, or God, show...

I have a hard time watching current TV. Most of the shows are episodic. I much prefer the older format of stand alone episodes. Maybe an overall general trajectory but independent episodes, Babylon 5 would be a good example of that. Best movie on Netflix is Eurovision Song Contest: The Story Of Fire...

Has not some form of polygamy been around forever across many cultures? It is not remotely unique to mormonism. Maybe the eternal salvation part, but not the lifestyle in general. Biologically men want to have sex with more than one women. Its the best way to spread your genes. It promotes the survi...

I give modern day Mormons credit for evolving to some degree with respect to misogyny. Not anywhere near where it should be but we are saints compared to Muslims. The place of women in their culture is very troubling. I would compare the modern day muslim more to fundamentalist Mormons than the main...

My wife has never taken them off completely. She made a concession to generally not sleep in them but wears them under her clothes. For her I think it is not a spiritual or obedience thing as much as what she is use to. She likes the feel of being covered. Personally I despise them. Both from appear...

Why do we ascribe to the notion that 10 lives are more valuable than one. If I said the train was full of war criminals is it the same? These anecdotal stories that make up the church are tiresome and have little to do with real life. Stories that have a goal intended to produce guilt of some kind a...

I think The Saints is already being used


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I hear it is expensive


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When i was a kid these stories used to get me looking under the bed at night. Then one day i decided boogey man stories were all bunk. It is a much better way to live. Belief in the supernatural just creates angst.


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It is inherent when men claim to speak for god on your behalf, they believe any notion that comes into their head. They don’t have to live it just peach it All their advice is really about benefiting the church and themselves to some degree. Not necessarily about the individual member. If you think ...

If people really had to live up to all the promises they make in the temple to get a recommend, hardly anyone would be able to attend.


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wtfluff wrote:

1smartdodog wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:49 pm

I have no proof, but sure seems like a logical argument to me.

How is this logic that you mention working with true believers?

Logic never works when feelings and obedience are involved.


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